General Panda pop 1.2 £1000 extra off this weekend

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General Panda pop 1.2 £1000 extra off this weekend

I see Fiat have a promo running over the next few days.
I presume the £1000 is Fiat supported meaning this is on top of any discount you negotiate?

With fiatsupersaver listing this model as £7995, could you be paying £6995??
Bargain if so.

http://www.fiat.co.uk/uk/promotions/panda-sept-promo

Yep, I saw this on a Wessex Garages car which was parked in Ikea in Cardiff (was on hols in the area last week!).

Not sure about the supasaver deal, but if true then it would be a real bargain. Even if you only get the quoted deal, it leaves plenty of scope for adding extras. You could add 5 seats, 60/40 split fold, Blue&Me and steering wheel controls and aircon and still have change from 9 grand; that really is a game changer IMO compared to the Up! etc.

I always felt the prices Fiat introduced from the start for the new Panda left them with some flexibility to reduce if needs be. So not a big surprise for me.
 
Yep, I saw this on a Wessex Garages car which was parked in Ikea in Cardiff (was on hols in the area last week!).

Not sure about the supasaver deal, but if true then it would be a real bargain. Even if you only get the quoted deal, it leaves plenty of scope for adding extras. You could add 5 seats, 60/40 split fold, Blue&Me and steering wheel controls and aircon and still have change from 9 grand; that really is a game changer IMO compared to the Up! etc.

I always felt the prices Fiat introduced from the start for the new Panda left them with some flexibility to reduce if needs be. So not a big surprise for me.

Good news but a pity that Fiat misjudged the pricing at launch time.
 
You didn't get dragged into Ikea whilst on holiday? Torture!! :D
Did you venture down the Cardiff Bay area whilst you were here?
You may have seen me if you did.

Haha! No, I went there voluntarily - much as I love living in Mid Devon it is a bit lacking when it comes to places for shopping...(y)

Lived in Roath for about nine years in total so we got a bit spoilt for having practically everything 20min walk away, or a short trip on the train. Not the same now!:D

We were indeed down the Bay last Wednesday - funnily enough I was just about to post on the 500 section about the sheer number of 500s we saw. Must have been about 50-60 in the six days we were away (of course some may have been the same car, but lots of different colours).

Not one Panda I have to say (other than the Wessex one!).
 
Good news but a pity that Fiat misjudged the pricing at launch time.

Yeah, I think they did take a gamble on the new Panda being similarly popular as the 500 when it came out.

The thing with the 500 when it was launched in 2007 was that it was arguably underpriced (the 500 1.2 Pop could be purchased for as little as £7900). So this means that there have been steady increases ever since which has grated with some buyers.

Still, I can't blame Fiat for not wanting to set prices too low. I'd mentioned on here before that the new Panda was going to have to be realistically priced with a nod towards the 500s prices, and I still feel that the prices were realistic enough. At least they have got some room to manoevure with reducing their prices.

That said, I do think the Panda 1.2 Pop will be available for sub-£8k before too long though (rather than being as part of a temporary sales period). It makes sense really as it is a basic spec car and should hopefully reel in a few more Up!/Citigo prospective buyers.
 
I happen to think that in the very competitive new car market the Panda is too expensive.

But, I also remember that after the 500 was launched it seemed to take an awfully long time to see any on the roads. Fashion has swept it along.

If they could adjust the Panda's spec to make it @£1000 less expensive across the board it would take off.
 
Still not seen a single one on the road and it's been out for several months now. Something is clearly wrong. Apart from us Fiat fans, the average car buyer might not even be aware that it is a new model as the basic shape of the Panda has not changed that much. By comparison, the Ypsilon seems good value and better equipped at around £7500. Just a pity it wears the Chrysler badge.
 
Still not seen a single one on the road and it's been out for several months now. Something is clearly wrong. Apart from us Fiat fans, the average car buyer might not even be aware that it is a new model as the basic shape of the Panda has not changed that much. By comparison, the Ypsilon seems good value and better equipped at around £7500. Just a pity it wears the Chrysler badge.

It's interesting that there's a perception that the 500 has sold more than the Panda when the converse is true by a substantial margin in terms of cars produced - I suspect the market in this country is difficult for Fiat to understand, which explains why their pricing on the new Panda seemed a bit odd.

Could there be a business opportunity to import Lancia badges and grilles to stick on the Chrysler-badged Lancias?
 
Still not seen a single one on the road and it's been out for several months now. Something is clearly wrong. Apart from us Fiat fans, the average car buyer might not even be aware that it is a new model as the basic shape of the Panda has not changed that much. By comparison, the Ypsilon seems good value and better equipped at around £7500. Just a pity it wears the Chrysler badge.

Going slightly off topic here, but I just had a look on the Chrysler website and the basic 1.2S Ypsilon has an OTR price of £10,695.

http://www.chrysler.co.uk/ypsilon

I did think that £7,500 was a bit cheap for it, haha!(y)
 
It's interesting that there's a perception that the 500 has sold more than the Panda when the converse is true by a substantial margin in terms of cars produced - I suspect the market in this country is difficult for Fiat to understand, which explains why their pricing on the new Panda seemed a bit odd.

Could there be a business opportunity to import Lancia badges and grilles to stick on the Chrysler-badged Lancias?

Not looked at any figures, but I would hazard a guess that the 500 has outsold Panda during the years of production in the UK at least??
 
Not looked at any figures, but I would hazard a guess that the 500 has outsold Panda during the years of production in the UK at least??

That's what I was getting at - it's certainly much closer at the least in UK and that would mean that the Panda outsells the 500 by a huge margin in some markets. Perhaps Fiat's thinking is that if the Panda's only going to sell in relatively small numbers in the UK they'll set the price ambitiously high initially.
 
Yes, I think you're right. Panda sells massively in some countries.
I don't think in the UK that Fiat have a finger on the publics pulse.

Remember they chopped the panda 4x4 just as demand soared, then didn't bother to bring it back even though Ireland did,

I really think if it weren't for 500 sales Fiat would be sunk in the UK.
 
Without the 500 Fiat would be gone from Britain I reckon.

Fiat always does this. When it introduced the old Doblo it got the engines totally wrong, then got bad reviews, and then it fitted the 'right' engines too late, and sales finally began to lift. But the damage was done for many people researching the car on-line as most of the comments they found were negative.

Then the 'new' Doblo came out a few years ago, and was too big - and far too expensive. How many of these have you seen on the roads?

Now the new Panda. Same story of far too complicated spec options, and anyway far too expensive. It is being killed by the Up famly and the Picanto et al, which sell a couple of thousand cheaper, and with far less complicated options systems.

And now that the Fiat factories are on extended 'temporary' closure you can't buy the Panda you want anyway, even if you can afford it :mad:

Next year Renault will begin to bring in a range of very competent Dacia cars, which will replace Fiat, and the Koreans, as the cheap and cheerful, and clever, choice for people who want a good inexpensive car. And apparantly Dacia is very profitable too. Cheap and amortised old bits fitted into simple robust cars with no particular pretensions of fashionablity must be working for tens of thousands of people who just want to get about cheaply.

And yet Fiat is desperate to move upmarket where the big profits supposedly are. Just offering lots of confusing options and charging more isn't enough though. The world economy is flatlining and will continue to do so, so Fiat had better find a way build cars more cheaply and cut prices - soon.
 
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Now the new Panda. Same story of far too complicated spec options, and anyway far too expensive. It is being killed by the Up famly and the Picanto et al, which sell a couple of thousand cheaper, and with far less complicated options systems.

And now that the Fiat factories are on extended 'temporary' closure you can't buy the Panda you want anyway, even if you can afford it :mad:

You already know, I guess, how I feel about that second paragraph... -- and I couldn't agree more.... :cry:

Just parked next to an up! (still a ridiculous name...) in Oxford Services, on the M40. What an ugly little runt. And it sounded like it had asthma, when it set off. Do people just buy these because they have a VW badge on the front...? :bang:

The Picanto, on the other hand: not a bad-looking or -driving car. Was quite tempted, I have to say...! :eek:
 
Nobody I have spoken to likes the look of the Up, at all. But they seem to be selling. Badges count I suppose, and the universally complimentary reviews. And they do drive rather well, if without the 'fun' of the Panda. The trouble is the new Panda is not as compelling as the last one was, so it isn't particularly tempting to a casual observer either. And it is expensive.

The Picanto was very impressive to me too, especially the engine. But, that dead electronic steering was a real killer. It was the most unpleasantly steering car I have ever driven. Dead, lifeless, almost heavy, and with zero self centering. Horrid!

I don't count some old unpowered cars in this statement though :D
 
There's a massive controversy brewing up here in Italy. A couple of years back Marchionne undertook to invest 20 billion euros over five years in Italian factories in a plan called Fabbrica Italia - moving Panda production to Pomigliano was the first move. Now he's saying that the whole car market has changed so much that the plan's no longer feasible. Unions and politicians are - surprise, surprise - trying to make capital out of the situation. In an interview in today's La Repubblica - roughly equivalent to The Guardian - he's emphasised that he doesn't intend to close plants here. Fiat's sales have fallen slightly less than the almost 20% year on year fall in the Italian market, with Ford taking a real plunge, but their sales across Europe are not good. Delaying new models and major updates to save on costs of development and factory upgrading seems to be the only plan there is, which may conserve cash flow but it has to be short-sighted as market share lost is incredibly hard to get back.
 
People are short of money. The sensible thing to do would be to offer cheaper cars containing the essential kit that modern day drivers believe to be essential: the debate on THAT can begin here and go on forever :p

Only joking.

But those people who need a new car will still have to buy one, even if they have to scrimp to buy it, and if they cannot wait for promised new cars that have been delayed, they will buy elsewhere. And Fiat will, as you say, lose even more of its market.
 
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I did read an article today that were mainly about Fiat vouching to keep their Italian factories from closing despite "tough climate".
Among other things article quoted Fiat's concern that their New Panda "isn't selling".
 
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