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Re: Any Twin Air 141A projects planned. ?

Bit rough having to take the engine out to change the spark plugs, or employing a child to do it.

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Bit rough having to take the engine out to change the spark plugs, or employing a child to do it.

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Do you think the engine would last that long?
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The engine getting a overhaul already.
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i wouldn't worry too much about the electric side of things tbh, it would only be hard if you really really wanted to use the factory ecu cause it will be canbus and throw a wobbly if all the different body ecus aren't connected and will need fly-by-wire pedal. Sure there is plenty of aftermarket ecus that could run the engine, and to run an engine, even a modern injected one, you don't really need that many wires. Would need to get a throttle body with a cable fit but that could be done with just an adaptor plate..
I still have not been in a car with a twin-air so i don't really have a strong opinion on whether this is a good or a bad idea.. I still really want to drop panda cross 1.3mjet in a classic 4x4 myself - maybe one day.
Here in the Netherland there is also a "NON" turbo TwinAir engine available, it would probably make things a lot easier te install without the Turbo.
But on the other hand a lot less fun to drive.
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Re: Any Twin Air 141A projects planned. ?

Mmmm, I don't think it would make it much harder - turbos are not as complicated as people like to think, so long as the original turbo and manifolds etc were used it wouldn't cost much and at the end of the day you likely going to end up with aftermarket engine management as i said before so that will need tuning which would cost the same as a turbo or NA motor.
Side note: i never knew there was a na twin-air!! What are the specs on these, how much power do they make etc?
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The N/A Twinair makes about the same power and torque as a P60 but makes it much higher up in the range so needs to be rung out even more.
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food for thought -
project TA engine - circa 5

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fiat-500-t...8AAOSwz71ZW4fr

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Mmmm, I don't think it would make it much harder - turbos are not as complicated as people like to think, so long as the original turbo and manifolds etc were used it wouldn't cost much and at the end of the day you likely going to end up with aftermarket engine management as i said before so that will need tuning which would cost the same as a turbo or NA motor.
Side note: i never knew there was a na twin-air!! What are the specs on these, how much power do they make etc?
The NA TwinAir has 964cc instead of the 875cc the Turbo has.
65 hp and 88 Nm torque, after a remap they would have 85 hp and 135 Nm torque.
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