I can actually see this derelict building from my office window. Allen, methinks this could be a job for me and your son, under the cover of darkness one night when we're done......if there is a hole big enough to get t in, then there's got to be a hole big enough to get it out again! Just dont tell the missus, she wont be impressed with any more pandas outside the house, apparently 5 is already too many...:bang: