Technical 4X4 Gear box help please - Whoops, been off road and lost 5th & reverse

Most Easterly Pandas · Apr 28, 2009

No IOTY nomination please.

Been off road, and can't now select reverse or fifth gear

Out of the two rods from gear selector to the gearbox the offside one has got a bit of a curve to it. Not normal I don't think, and could be the cause of the problem?

When trying to select either lost gear the drivers seat is in the way. Can enguage first to fourth ok.

Selecting first is now where third should be, so its all shifted over a tad to the right

Any idea's please.

Jon.

CLXCraig · Apr 28, 2009

have you been under the car? I don't know how these are supported but i guess there are brackets. could it be possible one has bent/snapped and caused the rods to move? You might find that you can pull them over towards the passenger side of the car.

Odd one this.

carlt · Apr 28, 2009

crash it over something the opposite way you did the damage

udtrev · Apr 28, 2009

Not nominating you mate, anyone who goes offroad has the odd problem or two - I've driven home from Salisbury with 3 foot of my exhaust in the boot :doh:

If the selector is curved wouldn't it be effectively shortened ?

Do you not have a spare gearbox for a 4x4 in your massive parts bin ? (thinking of a raid for parts)

Is the gearbox still mounted correctly ?

Trev

Pandarus · Apr 28, 2009

Without sounding too obvious Jon, have you have given the underside a thump? Hope you get it sorted.

purple haze · Apr 28, 2009

Ok Jon...my gear rods are the next thing i am putting back together...if you have bent one it sounds to me that you need to pop it off (very easy) heat it and straighten it...a bent one would do what your saying...any pic's??

default_user · Apr 28, 2009

Jon. Both rods should be dead straight. Even a slight curve in one of them would mess up the geometry of the gearchange. Straightening/changing the rod should sort the problem, assuming you haven't done any other damage. You'll have to get under the car to get the bent rod off anyway so make sure you check all the other gearchange components while you're there. Should be an easy one to sort, this. Good luck with it.

Most Easterly Pandas · Apr 28, 2009

Right, got back, top speed of fifty in forth, will leave it until tomorrow and take out the bent bar and perswade it to turn straight (sig anyone?) and then see if it helps. Was going to do it where we were off roading but didn't want to get stranded and tow by a landy thirty miles back to college digs.

Just by chance the only bits I've got still at college from the donor are the gear linkages so may swap (but knowing my luck 2wd and 4wd are different?)

Jon.

nitro_warrior · Apr 28, 2009

Most Easterly Pandas said:
No IOTY nomination please.

Been off road, and can't now select reverse or fifth gear

As soon as I read that I thought, "bent selector rods." They're quite exposed.

As has been said they should be straight. I expect yours will have a big scuff mark at the middle of the bend to boot!

Take them off bend them straight (shouldn't need heat), fingers crossed you should be all good

udtrev · Apr 29, 2009

Any news on the wee beastie Jon ?

Most Easterly Pandas · Apr 29, 2009

udtrev said:
Any news on the wee beastie Jon ?

Not really. Still no reverse or fifth. Not even looked at the poor girl. Had a field trip this morning and a Materials Science exam this afternoon followed by a shift at work in the college kitchens, so I've had no time to tend to her, and she's only done 2 miles today to and from college.

Will sort it in the daylight tomorrow.

Have checked the rods from donor Panda though and can confirm that they should be straight

Lol.

Jon.

CLXCraig · Apr 30, 2009

Have you go the ones from the 750L? If they need replacing atleast you have spares.. hoping they are the same

arc · Apr 30, 2009

seems a bit odd having rods, exposed, on a 4x4 panda. has anyone ever looked at fitting the stick from the cinquecento? i know the box won't be 100% the same, but if you swapped this into it;

and then got the selector mech mounting bracket off the cinquecento, ta-da - you'd have cable change, and no risk of bent rods again.

Luke P · Apr 30, 2009

Lateral thinking as usual... I like that solution Arc.

default_user · Apr 30, 2009

Not a bad idea actually. The 4x4 selector rod also forms part of the gearchange housing in the floor so you'd need to mod that as well. It's simply a push/pull action on a small lever on the box so would probably be quite easy to do.

purple haze · Apr 30, 2009

Or just use the cable change from a later MK2...not sure how to mod/drill through the bulkhead??

kev

default_user · Apr 30, 2009

Do later 4x4s have a cable change then? Ones that you can get here in the UK anyway? Might be worth modding the Rat to save off-road grief later...

purple haze · Apr 30, 2009

default_user said:
Do later 4x4s have a cable change then? Ones that you can get here in the UK anyway? Might be worth modding the Rat to save off-road grief later...

Mines on a "G" plate.....rod change!!!

allen fletcher · Apr 30, 2009

Think all UK 4x4's rod change however my toy L/H/D 4x4 1100cc trekking cable shift

Most Easterly Pandas · Apr 30, 2009

phone post from under the car!

Howbthe flippin' heck am I suppost to get the ball joint end of the pole back on?

HELP

Jon.

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