Panda 2012+ Panda 85 Lounge, Grigio Argento (Metallizzato)

There was no time to get the wheels to the Powder-coater but when they go, they will be "Mat Black" then CNC machined and then finished in "Mat" clear coat.

Wheels are back from the powder coater and are collected by the specialist that will CNC machine them.

Wonder how they end up looking like and if they are ever going to make it to the car and stay there this time

TheR said:

Wonder how they end up looking like and if they are ever going to make it to the car and stay there this time

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They getting to exspensive to sell in de meantime, with al the work done to them. ?

I Pre-Order my new 17 inch summer tires, for my new 17 inch summer wheels.

Cleaned my 16 inch steel summer wheel set and put it up for sale.
Next summer it's 17 inch wheel time.

A new year, and new states of tune to carry through.

1) 17 inch summer wheels. (already in progress)
2) 2017 Leather steering wheel upgrade.
3) OEM 105 TA intercooler upgrade.
4) ignition coils to sort out.
5) a new try on a remap, hoping the ignition coils sort out will eliminate the problems i had in 2018 after remapping the 85 TA.

Everything is planned to be finished by the end of May.
i will make before and after comparing picture about the steering wheel upgrade and for most the 105 TA intercooler upgrade.
The OEM plug & play 105 TA intercooler core is almost twice as big compare to the OEM 85 TA intercooler core.

The Pretender said:

The OEM plug & play 105 TA intercooler core is almost twice as big compare to the OEM 85 TA intercooler core.

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..... hmmmm, very interesting Mr Pretender. I look forward to updates on the IC swap

R1NGA said:

..... hmmmm, very interesting Mr Pretender. I look forward to updates on the IC swap

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I will do comparison pictures between the both.

R1NGA said:

..... hmmmm, very interesting Mr Pretender. I look forward to updates on the IC swap

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Interesting to know is, that the TwinAir turbo start to cut torque from the moment the compressed intake air temperature reach 75º Celsius or higher.
On a hot day, tuned, and with high speeds for longer periods of time that threshold is sooner reached then you think, and the ECU start to cut torque till that temperature is dropping below the 75º threshold.
The 500 TwinAir 105 intercooler is twice the thickness of the 85TA intercooler.
I spend a lot of time comparing both IC's and came to the conclusion it would be plug & play, even the hoses are the same used on both IC's.
Further i will look into the possibility to get even more air flowing through the bigger 105 intercooler.

Here a picture of a stock 85 TA intercooler, it's just around 5cm thick, the 105 TA intercooler is around 9cm thick, further same hight and width, same connections.
Left is the top of the IC

Wonder if there's room to fit it behind the Panda bumper?

R1NGA said:

Wonder if there's room to fit it behind the Panda bumper?

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Yes. the frontside of the IC's are the same, the backside thicker and there is enough space.

Are wide big wheels and tires really killing topspeed. ??
Today with 150 Kg extra load in the car it all ends at 165 Km/h "GPS" speed.

The Pretender said:

Are wide big wheels and tires really killing topspeed. ??
Today with 150 Kg extra load in the car it all ends at 165 Km/h "GPS" speed.

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In absolute terms, yes, as well as likely increasing the unsprung weight and compromising ride/handling balance I suspect. But if the improved grip and looks are much appreciated, then the downsides can be easily overlooked. Your increase wheel/tyre size is unlikely to have a big impact on top speed, as it's all relatively subtle. In terms of drag your dropped suspension will mostly counteract the wider tyres I suspect too.

Most likely the 150kg extra load and a mild incline are the likely culprits....

The last time i checked topspeed it was 182 on GPS, and that was with my 15 inch winter setup. (195/55R15 tires)

Wheels have been machined.

Today i cancelled my summer tire's that i had on order.
They where in backorder till February and that moved to March.
It could easily take even longer before they will be available.
So i will look for alternative tire's soon.

2017 Leather steering wheel upgrade.

I bought a nicely priced 2017 leather steering wheel to replace the original Lounge half leather half plastic steering wheel with.

Steering wheel installed.