posting in here as it's going to get nasty :devil:

the recent Punto evo has made me think, how many Fiats have actually improved looks wise following a midlife facelift? i don't care about practicalitys just pure outside looks. though it does get difficult with the Punto for example, with two facelifts..

i'll get us started with a few...:devil:

Cars which haven't
GP
Punto Mk2b
Tipo
Multipla

Cars which Have
Punto Mk2
original Panda

Cars which haven't
GP
Punto Mk2b
Tipo
Multipla
Uno

Cars which Have
Punto Mk2
original Panda

neon sign above head, target on back

Cars which haven't
GP
Punto Mk2b
Tipo
Multipla
Uno
128 Coupe

Cars which Have
Punto Mk2
original Panda

The 128 coupe was sooooooo elegant and then they made it the 3p :yuck:

Technically the Mk2 wasn't a face lift it was a new model.

ChrisUK said:

Technically the Mk2 wasn't a face lift it was a new model.

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Same with the Multipla.

ChrisUK said:

Technically the Mk2 wasn't a face lift it was a new model.

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Exactly, whilst the mk1 had Giorgetto Giugiaro designing it, the mk2 is about 80% different, and penned by some nobody at Fiat in-house design.

Credit where it's due though, the high-level lights were apparently not a Giugiaro feature, Fiat in-house design came up with that!

Newish fiat Croma - Nice looking car

fenton_jd said:

Newish fiat Croma - Nice looking car

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The latest facelifted version(ie like a GP nose) is gorgeous BUT we don't friggin get it in the UK

I really like the new GP evo. Think i'm the only one on here sometimes!

karbineftw said:

I really like the new GP evo. Think i'm the only one on here sometimes!

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i hated it when I 1st saw it but I think its starting to grow on me

Okay...so its finally been pointed out that the Punto Mk2 was a new model and not a facelift to the Mk1...

But am I the only person who doesn't think the Mk2 was an improvement on the styling??

Then again...I had a Mk1 for 8 years so may be biased!

IMO the MK2B punto is a facelift of the MK2 or am i missing something.

Orr...for the purposes of this thread any car with the same name could be considered a face lift?

Face lift comes 3 years after a new model is launched.

Unless it was advertised as "the all new (insert car name)" then it's a facelift!!

sorry for misleading i thought the Mk2 punto was just a significantly facelifted mk1, in that it remains the same mechanically underneath. though using that i suppose you could argue a seicento is a facelift of a cinquecento.

so for the purposes of this thread cars which share name and platform, such as punto mk1/2/2b will count as facelifts, the GP is a new start as different car entirely.

the Mk2 is nicer than a Mk1 so it counts as an improved facelift....

Older X1/9 looks better than the facelifted federal-spec cars

While the Mk2 punto was a nice different styling (aside from many issues that the mk1 didn't have, in many cases it was worse than the mk1. No footrest for example) the MK2b ruined it. The styling was not the thing people were complaining about Fiat.

The Punto Evo I must admit looks acceptable to me now but I still thought the original grande was the better looker.

claymore said:

While the Mk2 punto was a nice different styling (aside from many issues that the mk1 didn't have, in many cases it was worse than the mk1. No footrest for example) the MK2b ruined it. The styling was not the thing people were complaining about Fiat.

The Punto Evo I must admit looks acceptable to me now but I still thought the original grande was the better looker.

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this isn't about the improvements to the model, whether that's interior spec or such like just plain old good looks from the outside.

Definitely agree about X1/9, in original spec they're nice, but with the silly bumpers not so good, a few cars received similar treatment of bumpers messing up lines, like MGB, most american cars never even made the requirements!

Agree with the panda. although the mk1s in a few years will be highly desired!

I didnt use to like the GP but its grown on me alot. Evo front looks crap but i like the rear

claymore said:

While the Mk2 punto was a nice different styling (aside from many issues that the mk1 didn't have, in many cases it was worse than the mk1. No footrest for example) the MK2b ruined it. The styling was not the thing people were complaining about Fiat.

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And the window wiper problem everyone has complained about, never even happened with the mk1! lol. :'). That wasn't even upgraded in the mk2b version. Poor poor showing. Fiat are crap! :')

And as far as styling goes, I like the sporting version of the mk2 punto compared to the other models. It looks completely different imo, with the skirts, lowered and wheels.
Mk2 sporting looks alot nicer than mk1 sporting. I would just not own either tbh