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Re: C544 6 Speed Gearbox....

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Re: C544 6 Speed Gearbox....

But why would you buy a car with no gearbox, youll also find that the dual mass and clutch will be shafted, rebuild new clutch and dmf looking at 12-1500 parts rebuild and labour
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Lol! A gearbox man said that he's pretty dam sure that it is an M32, however I'll ask re. ratios, if all M32's are the same, then...
No they are not all the same. The m32 was fitted to a whole range of different cars and engines, some of which were petrol and thus totally different ratios. As suggested before, getting the gearbox from another Grande 1.9 would be a good bet. Could the existing box not be refurbished? That way you have some hope the bearings aren't going to go two moths later.
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Re: C544 6 Speed Gearbox....

It appears that the issue is differential related. The car's at the garage now, so by about Tuesday the gearbox should be out. I think that I'll probably look to get my box refurbished, I've been speaking to a very helpful guy recently who knows these boxes well. Hopefully its just bearings that have deceased and nothing else..? Been trying to understand why the M32 box suffers so much? Is it poor oil level, (I.e. poor maintenance) or is it poor quality bearings or what?
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Re: C544 6 Speed Gearbox....

Bearing it would seem. Poor quality. If you do a search on the M32 gearbox, it will bring up a load of other forums. Like Vauxhall etc...

Unfortunately Fiat inherited the use of this gearbox from Vauxhall. I believed Afla used a different 6 speed in the 147, if only they had used that instead!
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Would recommend a high quality thin oil so it gets thrown all over, fuchs titan sintofluid is the best for m32 boxes, i have 3 litres if you need
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youll also find that the dual mass and clutch will be shafted
Not necessarily, although for the price clutch replacement would be advisable the DMF can be tested and reused if fine.
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Guys, excuse my ignorance here, but how is a DMF tested?
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Guys, excuse my ignorance here, but how is a DMF tested?
Normally has to be sent off / take to a specialist company, but I believe its similar to wheel balance checking
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Not necessarily, although for the price clutch replacement would be advisable the DMF can be tested and reused if fine.

More than likely with these cars mate haha, believe mine had buggered teeth from looking at it, worth doing anyway while gearbox is out
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Always best to get it checked, bro in laws Golf went through 4 and the last one vag wouldn't replace even under warranty, good idea but need improved
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Mine failed. You can hear it and feel it
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My Mondeo Mk3 DMF was rattling like crazy when I bought it, yes, you can hear it. Are all DMFs the same, apparently the Mk3 was metal, rubber and metal sandwich construction, however looking at images of DMF for Gr Puntos, they appear to have springs inside??
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I put a single mass in my mondeo was sick of going through starter motors
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