(T) No oil on dip stick?

timfuller1886 · 22-09-2013

Hi everyone, I need some help.... I have recently done a oil and filter change last weekend however I don't get a reading on the stick? I've triple checked everything no leaks, right oil, and not problems with the Car at all just alarm bells are ringing with nothing showing?? I have had all 16 valves changed and some head work done around 6 months ago..... Any ideas please

ElliottMK2B · 22-09-2013

Did you put the right amount of oil in?

dave · 22-09-2013

new clean oil can some times look invisible, buy a packet of blue rizla and run the edge of one down the stick starting about 2cm above max

timfuller1886 · 23-09-2013

Originally Posted by ElliottMK2B

Did you put the right amount of oil in?

I put what in what it said

timfuller1886 · 23-09-2013

Originally Posted by dave

new clean oil can some times look invisible, buy a packet of blue rizla and run the edge of one down the stick starting about 2cm above max

I'll give it a try this morning thanks

portland_bill · 23-09-2013

If the above test shows no oil on stick, we need to determine where it is.
1. Is the stick pushed fully in.
2. Check that the dipstick tube is properly seated and has not lifted.
3. Drain the oil into a clean container (so that it can be reused) and see if the right amount comes out. (Proof it was in there)
4. Is all the oil in the head instead of the sump? Have the drain channels become blocked during the head work, or blocked by wrong or incorrectly fitted head gasket.

It can't disappear. There will be a logical solution.

timfuller1886 · 24-09-2013

Originally Posted by portland_bill

If the above test shows no oil on stick, we need to determine where it is.
1. Is the stick pushed fully in.
2. Check that the dipstick tube is properly seated and has not lifted.
3. Drain the oil into a clean container (so that it can be reused) and see if the right amount comes out. (Proof it was in there)
4. Is all the oil in the head instead of the sump? Have the drain channels become blocked during the head work, or blocked by wrong or incorrectly fitted head gasket.

It can't disappear. There will be a logical solution.

Have done all off the above and believe one or more off the channels have become block after extensive head work recently, it with a expert as we speak so fingers crossed it will be simple

big thank you to everyone for all your help

timfuller1886 · 26-09-2013

Quick update, it was blocked channels but all clean and ready to go

portland_bill · 26-09-2013

How long ago was the head work? Who did it?
How long has the engine been run in this condition? Since the head work, if the engine has been run, all oil pumped to the head will have remained there, reducing the available oil for the crank. If it has been run for some time, there could be significant crank damage.

However, it is good practice to change oil after any such work, is this what has happened? If so, and engine has not run, then no worries.

If the head work was done by a professional, is he responsible for the remedial work and consequential costs.

Hopefully all is well now.

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portland_bill Get Your Own Title Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Faringdon, Oxfordshire UK Posts: 6,327 Thanks: 505 Trader Rating: 1	Re: No oil on dip stick? If the above test shows no oil on stick, we need to determine where it is. 1. Is the stick pushed fully in. 2. Check that the dipstick tube is properly seated and has not lifted. 3. Drain the oil into a clean container (so that it can be reused) and see if the right amount comes out. (Proof it was in there) 4. Is all the oil in the head instead of the sump? Have the drain channels become blocked during the head work, or blocked by wrong or incorrectly fitted head gasket. It can't disappear. There will be a logical solution. timfuller1886 thanked for this post fiat_freak liked this post __________________ 13 years motor trade, 16 years motor industry. 14 years Driving Instructor & 7 years Fleet Trainer Panda Alessi
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portland_bill Get Your Own Title Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Faringdon, Oxfordshire UK Posts: 6,327 Thanks: 505 Trader Rating: 1	Re: No oil on dip stick? How long ago was the head work? Who did it? How long has the engine been run in this condition? Since the head work, if the engine has been run, all oil pumped to the head will have remained there, reducing the available oil for the crank. If it has been run for some time, there could be significant crank damage. However, it is good practice to change oil after any such work, is this what has happened? If so, and engine has not run, then no worries. If the head work was done by a professional, is he responsible for the remedial work and consequential costs. Hopefully all is well now. __________________ 13 years motor trade, 16 years motor industry. 14 years Driving Instructor & 7 years Fleet Trainer Panda Alessi
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