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Old 06-02-2010   #31
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re: Recall 5397 - Steering Column Shaft

The chances of complete steering failure are miniscule. You'd hear obvious knocking/clonking noises a long time before failure, which you'd have to be an idiot to ignore.

In fact, not one vehicle we've checked which has had to have the shaft replaced due to being outside of the torque-range (always under, not over tight) had reported any noise issue/loss of control.
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Yes it does Mr Barbary_coaster :-
https://www.fiatforum.com/grande-pun...ll-notice.html

We'll give you the benefit of the doubt as a Welcome Noob!
Fair enough, missed that one

Interesting points raised in this thread as to responsibility - I wonder where I stand when the local Fiat dealer can not do the job due to lack of a wrench??
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Re: Recall 5397 - Steering Column Shaft

Seems there is some truth in what my legal-eagle told me regarding insurance on recalled cars. Toyota and the ABI have issued a statement confirming to owners that insurance cover will not be invalidated on vehicles subject to recall and that if owners are refused cover as a result Toyota themselves will provide insurance via there own scheme.

This ties in with what he told me regarding liability and begs the question ........Where do we as Fiat owners stand regarding our insurance and our recalled cars. Are we all on the same playing field as Toyota owners and can we assume we are covered despite knowing about the possible fault. Or is it one rule for them and another for us in that the statement only applies to Toyota owners??


http://blog.toyota.co.uk/toyota-insu...-is-unaffected
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Re: Recall 5397 - Steering Column Shaft

So is the fault basically a bolt?? As about 2weeks after i took mine to fiat i went down to london and as soon as i went above 60 the steering started to shake and vibrate bid time.
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Re: Recall 5397 - Steering Column Shaft

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So is the fault basically a bolt?? As about 2weeks after i took mine to fiat i went down to london and as soon as i went above 60 the steering started to shake and vibrate bid time.
Get your wheels balanced and tracking checked then.
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ive had my wheels ballanced and everything but when i got about 60/70 i get vibrationvquite badly,then when i turn my sterring wheel it cluncs i took it to fia and the said wait till the 4th march when my car goes infor the recall so im hardly using the car untill then due to being worrid about failure
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ive had my wheels ballanced and everything but when i got about 60/70 i get vibrationvquite badly,then when i turn my sterring wheel it cluncs i took it to fia and the said wait till the 4th march when my car goes infor the recall so im hardly using the car untill then due to being worrid about failure
Could be a buckled wheel or an imbalance of the tyre.

Turning the wheel, is this slow speeds? If so may be the top strut mounts, im getting mine replaced 17 from fiat.
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Could be a buckled wheel or an imbalance of the tyre.

Turning the wheel, is this slow speeds? If so may be the top strut mounts, im getting mine replaced 17 from fiat.
the wheels are fine tried them on another gp im going towait and find out when the time comes but im just hoping nothing will brake..

and hw do you know if the strut mounts have broke and yeah its at slow speed
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Im unsure how you tell if they have broke, but it seems to be a common failure.

I get a scrapping/rubbing noise when going at slow speeds unually when reversing out my drive , i.e turning whilst reversing.
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Re: Recall 5397 - Steering Column Shaft

Myne got recalled the other week and ever since iv got a creek from the colum plus the other day my top mounts have gone so im replacing them on saturday when i put my eibach sportlines on and my car is booked in for the 3rd march for this creeking and steering wheel replacement which i was promised when bought the car 5 months ago......
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Im unsure how you tell if they have broke, but it seems to be a common failure.

I get a scrapping/rubbing noise when going at slow speeds unually when reversing out my drive , i.e turning whilst reversing.
It sounds like a 'twanging' noise like the spring has broken because i thought that then i got it on the ramp at work and when i locked the wheels side to side u could here the bearings in the top mounts crunching which when there is weight isnt allowing the shock absorbers and springs to turn freely hence the 'twanging' noise.
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Re: Recall 5397 - Steering Column Shaft

took our car in for the recall yesterday when it went in the steering was knocking and was very loose (had just started doing it two days ago) the fiat dealer blamed it on a snapped spring but when we got it back (no new spring) eerything was working fine!. think they were covering up .

getting new springs anyway because one is broke but the steering works fine again!
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Re: Recall 5397 - Steering Column Shaft

However the top strut mounts being broken have no effect on the cars handling or ride. Because the unit is sealed it also isn't going to fly to bits so really if you don't mind the twanging noise then it's really no big deal. I'm trading mine in though in two months so need to get it done under it's last month of warrenty!
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We are in contact with Fiat trying to get them to reimburse us for the cost of ferry travel from Scottish Isles to mainland UK for this recall. They asked us to provide cost of travel from ferry company by e-mail or fax which we did last Fri and still waiting to hear from them despite phoning Mon and again Tue to speak to a specific person. Both times I was assured she would phone back and I'm still waiting. In fact the end of the phone call on Tue had the person on the other end trying to suppress laughter (maybe nothing to do with our conversation but it does sound alarm bells!) I think Fiat should compensate us to some degree as it involves 2 nights on ferry plus 1 day off work, and at end of the day it is their problem. Already had to fix known warranty claim problem at our own expense due to Fiat not authorising repair at local garage.
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Re: Recall 5397 - Steering Column Shaft

Tricky one, yes its not your problem but its not theres that you live at your current location.

Easiest way is to send a tech over there
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