longtermrenter
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Hi all,
been here before but for some reason locked out of my account and password retrieval not working.
My 2009 Ducato has had several problems over the years but the only engine ones have been the throttle body which caused it to be severely under-powered. I replaced with the new version (Magneti Marelli) and it has been fine since. I did the timing belt about 4 years ago and the engine has had fresh quality oil approx every 6 - 8000 miles, always topped up.
At the last MOT (Nov) I really struggled to get it through the emissions test and it had started to billow black smoke under load. No loss of power or hesitancy, just thick black smoke. I must say the MOT centre were great (depending upon your view of the environment) in that they did the smoke test about 6 times until it passed. This was after taking the inlet manifold off and cleaning it and the throttle body and treating it with 2 different cans of smoke stop and injector clean and thrashing up the motorway in third to warm it right up and let it breathe.
I have checked the intercooler and turbo pipes - they aren't collapsing at high revs and don't appear to have any leaks. I am not sure exactly what sort of noises the EGR solenoid valve should make but I do know that when connected there is a high pitched buzzing noise and the engine has a deeper tone. When you disconnect the right hand pipe from the solenoid valve (looking towards the windscreen) the engine noise loses the deeper tone and the high pitched noise stops. I took it for a test run with both connected and disconnected scenarios and there seems little difference in smoke.
I want to sort this out now and it seems to me there could be several problems. I am about ready for another timing belt change so I thought while I did that I could whip the EGR off and replace it and clean up the heat exchanger, connecting pipes and the throttle body and inlet manifold. I could also replace the intake pressure/temperature sender.Once back together if the problem is not resolved I could then try replacing the solenoid valve. I guess the only other culprit then could be the MAF sensor or Lambda sensor.
I am hoping someone here might be able to add their wisdom and help me here. One question I have is do you think it is worth whipping the head off while I have it stripped down and giving that a good de-coke and a re-grind the valves? The engine has about 110,000 miles on the clock.
been here before but for some reason locked out of my account and password retrieval not working.
My 2009 Ducato has had several problems over the years but the only engine ones have been the throttle body which caused it to be severely under-powered. I replaced with the new version (Magneti Marelli) and it has been fine since. I did the timing belt about 4 years ago and the engine has had fresh quality oil approx every 6 - 8000 miles, always topped up.
At the last MOT (Nov) I really struggled to get it through the emissions test and it had started to billow black smoke under load. No loss of power or hesitancy, just thick black smoke. I must say the MOT centre were great (depending upon your view of the environment) in that they did the smoke test about 6 times until it passed. This was after taking the inlet manifold off and cleaning it and the throttle body and treating it with 2 different cans of smoke stop and injector clean and thrashing up the motorway in third to warm it right up and let it breathe.
I have checked the intercooler and turbo pipes - they aren't collapsing at high revs and don't appear to have any leaks. I am not sure exactly what sort of noises the EGR solenoid valve should make but I do know that when connected there is a high pitched buzzing noise and the engine has a deeper tone. When you disconnect the right hand pipe from the solenoid valve (looking towards the windscreen) the engine noise loses the deeper tone and the high pitched noise stops. I took it for a test run with both connected and disconnected scenarios and there seems little difference in smoke.
I want to sort this out now and it seems to me there could be several problems. I am about ready for another timing belt change so I thought while I did that I could whip the EGR off and replace it and clean up the heat exchanger, connecting pipes and the throttle body and inlet manifold. I could also replace the intake pressure/temperature sender.Once back together if the problem is not resolved I could then try replacing the solenoid valve. I guess the only other culprit then could be the MAF sensor or Lambda sensor.
I am hoping someone here might be able to add their wisdom and help me here. One question I have is do you think it is worth whipping the head off while I have it stripped down and giving that a good de-coke and a re-grind the valves? The engine has about 110,000 miles on the clock.