Technical Suspension top mounts

cc1 · Feb 6, 2010

Changed my front suspension top mounts today on Schumacher number 2.
Fiat eper quote two versions and as usual , Two prices. The power steering one costs more. Why??? Same crap.

The difference is that the power steering ones have the hole centre 7mm
towards the bulkhead to kind of make the wheels flop as you turn.

Have fitted ones bought from Fluffy, Driven the car and to me it feels better.

clock34 · Feb 7, 2010

ah so the actual strut top on the pas ones make it easier for the pas motor

nice.

bozothenutter · Feb 7, 2010

towards the bulkhead means more castor right?
So, will these fit a cinq aswell? might be usefull when changing my steering rack for a PAS one (without the PAS)

rallycinq · Feb 7, 2010

Increased castor will increase turn in, which is a good thing.

Will make the steering heavier, which is why they are used with the power column.

Cheers

SPD

ycming · Feb 7, 2010

Ah, so it is good to change the top mount to the one that is made for the power steering sei ?

Thanks
Ming

rallycinq · Feb 7, 2010

ycming said:
Ah, so it is good to change the top mount to the one that is made for the power steering sei ?

Thanks
Ming

Not for you, you'll break something!

Cheers

SPD

ycming · Feb 7, 2010

rallycinq said:
Not for you, you'll break something!

Cheers

SPD

lol, that's confidence in me

.

Is just that am thinking of renewing the top mounts on both cinq and if these top mounts will improve handling then is worth a shot

Thanks
Ming

rallycinq · Feb 7, 2010

ycming said:
lol, that's confidence in me .

Is just that am thinking of renewing the top mounts on both cinq and if these top mounts will improve handling then is worth a shot

Thanks
Ming

Well I suppose by the time you've fitted 4 you'll get the hang of it, lol.

Cheers

SPD

David C · Feb 7, 2010

I wondered what the difference between the two was.
Useful to know.

cc1 · Feb 7, 2010

The ones I fitted are non power steering type so make the suspension strut more vertical.

The power steering type are, I believe, Only available from FIAT.

ycming · Feb 7, 2010

so to confirm, is the top mounts for the sei with PAs that will increase castor?

Thanks
Ming

David C · Feb 7, 2010

sounds like it yes

bozothenutter · Feb 11, 2010

could we get some pics of the mount if possible?
would it be possible to turn it trough 33.3 degrees and have more camber?
I can't remember what the pattern of the holes is
is it two holes towards the centreline of the car or a single one?

rallycinq · Feb 11, 2010

The holes are not equidistant.

Cheers

SPD

bozothenutter · Feb 11, 2010

rallycinq said:
The holes are not equidistant.

Cheers

SPD

Drat!

J333EVO · Feb 11, 2010

If you want more camber use camber bolts, they work and give upto 1.75° of extra camber. We have some on our Cinq Eibach ones work great.

Eibach do not list any for the Cento, but on cross checking Monroe "Magic Camber" bolts I found same part number was listed for Cento and Mk1 Clio's. So I bought a set of Mk1 Clio (90-98) Eibach bolts and they fit a treat.

At £16 they are a bargain compared to what some charge for them.

http://www.venommotorsport.com/manufacturer_product.php?manufacturer=Eibach Alignment&category=suspension&product=FrontCamber&make=Renault&model=Clio

Forgot to add, by increasing castor you make the car more stable in a straight line and increase the camber on the wheel when its turning, but it requires more effort to turn the steering wheel especially when the car is stationary, hence why less castor on the non-power assisted vehicles, but if you can live with heavier steering having some more castor will help if using the car on track etc

Todger182 · Feb 11, 2010

Good to know on the camber bolts then. Might purchase a set next week.

Is there any for the rear? Not sure if the rears have been mentioned somewhere...

Thanks

rallycinq · Feb 11, 2010

Todger182 said:
Good to know on the camber bolts then. Might purchase a set next week.

Is there any for the rear? Not sure if the rears have been mentioned somewhere...

Thanks

No adjustment at the rear really.

The way the arm works won't allow.

Cheers

SPD

Todger182 · Feb 11, 2010

Okies, I should get some neg camber on further lowering but I wanted to control it a bit more so not to screw tyres up.

Random question, has peoples PM's been working properly? I've been sending out but either the receiving end just don't want my money, or something is wrong.

Sorry for hijacking.

Thanks

ycming · Feb 11, 2010

YAS 16 quid what a steal, monroe dealer wants around £45 at glasgow!!!!!!!

YAS YAS YAS now i can have 2 set

Ming

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