Technical Some help please

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So I currently have a 2007 1.9 multijet 16v Bravo. It was left sitting for some time and when I came to start it the alternator started smoking and looks as though it's failed as there is no charge to battery with engine running. Having removed quite a few alterantors in m ytime on older vehicles and am tempted to have a go at removing it to find out exactly which version it is and order a new one and fit it. Sounds easy

But looking closer there is no room at the top to withdraw the alternator and having removed all the covers from underneath and wheel arch it looks like there is no room underneath without removing the driveshaft.

But according to the Fiat eLEARN on this vehicle it makes it sound easy it just mentions removing the Op. 1008C30 POWER UNIT LOWER REACTION LINK - R.R. and the Op. 1008C33 BRACKET ON ENGINE FOR LOWER REACTION ROD - R.R. and also the reinforcement. Mentions nothing about removing the driveshaft.

Any ideas, advice or comments would be appreciated. Maybe some of you have already done this job and know exactly how to get the alternator out with ease.

Thanks in advance Paul
 
I don't have a Bravo myself - so I can't speak from experience here - however I can confirm from looking at the Bravo eLEARN that there is no mention of removing the driveshaft - basically just the items you listed, then "remove the alternator by moving the engine forwards slightly".

On the other hand here are some accounts from other Bravo owners who've actually been faced with this job:

https://www.fiatforum.com/bravo/336808-alternator.html

https://www.fiatforum.com/bravo/456558-1-6-diesel-mjt-alternator-replacement.html

So I'm guessing it's not as straightforward as eLEARN might seem to imply.
 
So just thought I'd update this post and let you all know how I got on. Well firstly job done, new remanufactured Denso Alternator fitted and car all working fine now.

It was done outside with a trolley jack and 1 axle stand and some help from a friend. So how did we do it?

Here is a description of the process in as much detail as possible sorry forgot to take photos.

>Firstly we disconnected the battery, then jacked up drivers side front of car and supported it on an axle stand. We didn't even have to remove front wheel, just turn full lock to the right.

> Then removed both covers from underneath the centre one and drivers wheel arch cover. Tools used were: cross head screwdriver and 10mm socket/spanner and 13mm for the larger front securing bolts with large dished washers.

> Then we removed the rear engine mount bracket as described in fiat elearn and the reinforcement bar from underneath. 17mm

>Then removed wiring from Alternator 13mm and 8mm before removing the top alternator securing bolt which was a 19mm bolt, remove the large through bolt, and then undo the lower support bolt. Alternator had to be knocked from bracket with a bar and hammer as was on the dowel.

> Then we supported the engine/gearbox with a piece of wood and trolley jack and removed the engine mount which is situated under the expansion tank. So that needs to removed first from it's mounting first 2 x 10mm flange nuts, to move it out of the way the fuel filter housing needs to be unbolted 2 x 10mm nuts one on the inner wheel arch the second on the actual engine. Then these two can be lifted and cable tied out of the way. To make room to unbolt the 5 x bolts for the engine mount.

> Then finally there is a single 10mm nut under the front of the car/cross menber holding the exhaust down pipe bracket, undo this to allow the engine to move forwards to it's maximum reach.

> Once this is done, it's simply a case of raising and lower the car as well as tilting it forwards slightly to manouevre and remove the alternator from the car through the wheel arch. The A/C pipe gets in the way so we removed the 2 brackets to be able to manipulate the pipe out of the way to get the alternator out. It take a bit of faffing around but it does go and you can get a new one in the same way.

> Then it's a case of fitting everything back in reverse order. Total time around 2 hrs for two of us. Two people are not really needed as one of us were standing around a lot, but when comes to moving the engine forwards and actually getting the alternator out - two of us came in very handy.

Hope this helps somebody else in the future thinking of removing their Alternator from a Fiat Bravo 1.9 Multijet 16v the 150bhp model.
 
Great to hear that you got the job done - and thank you for posting that excellent account of how you did it - I'm sure it will be of help to other Bravo owners in the future. (y)
 
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