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Bravo key code light

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All help would be much appreciated.I have a fiat bravo 1997 td been having problems recently where the key code light wont go off and engine wont start have been using red key for daily use found out about a week ago shouldnt use the red key so have had blue keys cut as car didnt come with any so i try to program the blue keys in the ignition as detailed on this forum.So i put the red key in switch ignition on key code light goes out remove red key put blue key in but key code light stays on i have tried this many times and all that happens is when you get to the blue key the light just stays on.I dont know what to do now.
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Re: Bravo key code light

if the light stays on it means the blue key has the same code as the red key (if you copied or cloned the red key this would happen) or the blue key has an invalid code (if the key has not been coded or the code is not the correct length and format) or no blue key code can be read (if it wasnt a chipped key). also, dont keep the red key on the same keyring as the blue keys, it may confuse the code reader if it reads multiple codes, keep the keys well apart during programming.

exactly how did you get the blue keys coded? where did the new blue key codes come from?
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Re: Bravo key code light

Thanks for your reply i bought the keys off ebay they came as fiat chipped blue keys how do i code them sorry im new to this dont fully understand i thought that as long as i bought 2 blue keys and had them cut i could then just program through the ignition.
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Re: Bravo key code light

were they brand new keys or 2nd hand ones? are they original fiat or another make?

new keys will probably not be coded, although im not sure about that, depends where they came from and if they are orignal fiat keys. timpsons can read codes, get the new keys read, if they dont have codes you will need to copy the codes from any keys that have fiat codes, if you have a friend or family member with a fiat that uses the red key code system you can copy their codes easily at timpsons and get the codes put onto the new keys. if you ask nicely they will do it for free, they did it for me after i had already paid to get keys cut and it cost nothing extra.

if they are 2nd hand keys they should definately work. used keys will already be coded. if you have 2nd hand keys that dont work then there must be another problem, cant think what that could be at the minute, i've never seen or heard of this not working.

if its not working i guess you must have new keys without codes. as i said in the other threads each key must have a code on it, each code must be different to the other codes. a new key can have any code written to it, but im not sure if an original fiat key will be able to accept a code from a locksmiths machine, i got timpsons keys cut and coded at timpsons. i took 2 keys from a friend's cinqucento with me to steal valid codes from. it worked fine.
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lol, i had this problem with second hand keys.it is very very weird, just have to keep turning the key to the "electrics" stage of ignition and seeing if code light would go out. getting so annoying now on verge of turning immobilisor off and using my clifford one!
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Re: Bravo key code light

i should mention, you only have 3 seconds to change keys from the point when the key code light goes out. as soon as the light goes out, get the red key out and get a blue one in and turned, 3 secs isnt very long, if you stop to admire the bugs splats on your windscreen it will be too late
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Re: Bravo key code light

Thanks for all your help.I have just found out that i have a timpsons near me so will be going there do i need a red key from the other car because my brother also has a fiat but only has the blue key.
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Re: Bravo key code light

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if the light stays on it means the blue key has the same code as the red key (if you copied or cloned the red key this would happen) or the blue key has an invalid code (if the key has not been coded or the code is not the correct length and format) or no blue key code can be read (if it wasnt a chipped key). also, dont keep the red key on the same keyring as the blue keys, it may confuse the code reader if it reads multiple codes, keep the keys well apart during programming.

exactly how did you get the blue keys coded? where did the new blue key codes come from?
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Re: Bravo key code light

I called him up last month as I just had the red key, so he told me that he will have to send the ecu to find the slave code, he suggested to go to fiat instead of making keys with him.
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Re: Bravo key code light

Quote Originally Posted by chloe1705
Thanks for all your help.I have just found out that i have a timpsons near me so will be going there do i need a red key from the other car because my brother also has a fiat but only has the blue key.
if he has 2 blue keys then that will work, but you cant copy the code from 1 blue key onto 2 of your keys, the ecu will see them as one key, and you need 2 unique blue keys for the programming sequence to work. you can copy the code from his red key onto a your blue key, but he doesnt have the red key so thats useless. you need 2 fiat keys with 2 different codes to copy. if your brother has 2 blue keys then you're in luck, if not keep searching.

aside from all that, the main problem i see is that you have 2nd hand keys that wont program into the ecu, those 2nd hand keys should already be coded, if they arent they wouldnt have ever worked in a car. timpsons can read the codes off, if they are already coded then just leave the current codes on. if that is the case i dont know why the ecu wont learn their codes. did you read the message about the 3 second time limit?
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Re: Bravo key code light

I have the same problem. I got two blue keys cut from timpson, put code from old blue keys (got from scrapyard, one bravo, one marae), each code different, followed 3 sec rule, but still my ecu would not programme it. I tried several time but it wouldnt? Any suggestions?
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Re: Bravo key code light

no idea? what does the key code light do? i guess it goes out with red key but not with either of the blue keys?
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Re: Bravo key code light

But then engine doesnt start with the new blue keys, means its not programmed. Isnt there any other way to programme the ecu with the codes.
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Re: Bravo key code light

i've heard of another method involving pressing the accelerator pedal a certain number of times or something like than but im not certain what that procedure is or if it really works. i think there's a thread somewhere about it
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Re: Bravo key code light

To Anyone Out There Having Problems With Orange Code Light On Fiat Bravo/brava Or Any Similar Fiat

Make Sure Your Car Battery Is Fully Charged!!

The Ecu In These Models Will Only Function Correctly With A Fully Charged Battery!!

I Had The Same Problem As Post #1 And Tried Alsorts

After Charging Battery Overnight The Orange Code Light Dissappered And Cranked Up Straight Away

Hope This Helps To Anyone With The Same Problem

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