Tuning Boost! Boost!
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Tuning Boost! Boost!
Good job that blown diffusers and front exit exhausts will be banned next year.
Been there, done that.
Apart from DPF problems I would still have had it now. Although mine was the 75BHP model and the type of driving wasn't helpful to the regenerating process I really liked it.
Sounds like a bastard child of Mustang and Lamborghini (beastly unnatural!)
Mel, I'm shocked.
I always put you down as the shy, innocent, butter wouldn' melt in your mouth (Serbian) girl next door type. I never dreamt you would know such bad words.
Agred. Though the engineers will find some incredibly intelligent way of screwing the rules over and giving themselves more grip.
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It also happens in the accountancy 'world'. The more you spend on your tax advisor the more you can legitimately avoid paying.
which is precisely how FIAT managed to squeeze the TwinAir into the 99g/km tax band.
Yup. It's a well known thing in motorsport that the team who cheats in the most creative way (DD diffusers) or just the sneakiest way (TTE restrictor) will win
http://homepage.virgin.net/shalco.com/tte_ban.htm
http://ft86club.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1240&stc=1&d=1295836623
Just an awesome cheat
Hats off to the person who came up with that idea.
The turbo 1.4 is said to be significantly different internally than the n/a 1.4 (and uses a bigger, tougher, gearbox).
The n/a engine is said to throw rods if pushed past 140 bhp. A few companies are said to have come unstuck trying to extract more power reliably from the n/a motor.
To my mind, this makes sense.
If it were an economically viable proposition, folk like BBR would be falling over themselves to produce something like a 500 Abarth SS at a better price than FIAT.
The n/a engine is said to throw rods if pushed past 140 bhp. A few companies are said to have come unstuck trying to extract more power reliably from the n/a motor.
To my mind, this makes sense.
If it were an economically viable proposition, folk like BBR would be falling over themselves to produce something like a 500 Abarth SS at a better price than FIAT.
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Good answer for the OP and really questions the sanity of using the supercharger kit mentioned earlier on with a claimed 155bhp. I was under the impression that the limits of the 6 speed gearbox on the 1.4 were around 130bhp with a N/A engine.
I'd imagine that if the US decided to embark on supercharging their MA setup they may have more success with it if they can get it insured.
For the record it's torque that kills boxes, not necessarily power as such.
As always, if I wanted to put a turbo in, I'd just buy an Abarth engine and box in. Far far easier.
LOL that car sounds like its trying to let off on its own driveway. i'm surprised it didn't leave any brown stains behind it
aint gonna lie i do like that loose bowel sound they give out, more than an F1
i must admit, i love that sound reminds me when i used to play guitar hero on the ps3 lol
For sure. And by popping on a supercharger (especially a positive displacement type) you're massively increasing the low down torque, which is where it does the most damage. There are big issues in sorting out a reliable drive to the supercharger, too. (See Dave the Trike's massive -- and ultimately catastrophic -- thread.) Consider a centrifugal charger.
And more reliable. See Munkul's sad, sad, story for what can go wrong.
I am reading that thread RIGHT at this moment! Sad end. Punto's aren't my thing if I'm honest, but that's someone's hard work that's just caught fire and burnt
VERY sad. I really doubt the OP's insurance are going to pay out if a con rod goes through the block and starts a fire which kills the whole car like Munkul's if it's your fault for putting a supercharger on and the internals are not up to the job.I had thought of putting a bigger turbo on our Subaru and putting a piggyback chip on and get another 80bhp to play with but after seeing that I think that 200bhp is enough and it doesn't need more even if it is 99.999999999% up to the job.....
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That is a sad read. I can relate to 'pushing the boat' and increasing the boost but fortunately for me the conrod never reared its ugly head. Have a sneaky suspicion that the 1.4 engine is a better 'starting block' but I still wouldn't consider Supercharging or Turbocharging it. Although I did once think of Nitrous Oxide but that's illegal to use but not to have fitted in the car.
Surely not?
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First remember seeing its 'proper' use on TV (Youtube Top Gear - Nitrous Jaguar - BBC) but this 'stuff' has got really bad press particularly the issue of insurance. It's a case of a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Surely thinking of it wasn't a sin.
I'm sure it's legal, you knowe, but must be declared to the insurance. There may be concerns about people inhaling it -- it's a halucinogen as well as an anaesthetic!
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There was a few guys using here a couple of years ago but there had trouble getting refills (& they were expensive) and it could only be got if you had 'their' containers. From what I understand if you are able to 'connect it' at the driver's seat its illegal - haven't checked up on it recently though. Can't see any insurance company in Eire ever insuring it. If one did - you would have pay for an Engineer to do an assessment of the work carried out as part of an application for getting insured. Might be something to do on a track for the 'heck of' it but in a newish '09 I'd be bonkers. The 1.4 engine should be capable of it up to a 'sensible' 30bhp from what I've seen on old threads on other sections of the FF. Genuinely I would not encourage anyone to use it. Too much at stake.
Much safer than a turbo though -- at least, in terms of engine life.
The thing with ther bottles is pretty much as it is for oxygen or argon: you basically rent the bottle off AP or BOC and they fill it.
Generally, the biggest downfall is the cost of the stuff (unless you're sleeping with a dentist).
The thing with ther bottles is pretty much as it is for oxygen or argon: you basically rent the bottle off AP or BOC and they fill it.
Generally, the biggest downfall is the cost of the stuff (unless you're sleeping with a dentist).
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Much safer than a turbo though -- at least, in terms of engine life.
The thing with ther bottles is pretty much as it is for oxygen or argon: you basically rent the bottle off AP or BOC and they fill it.
Generally, the biggest downfall is the cost of the stuff (unless you're sleeping with a dentist).
Well I hope not - he's pretty ugly but his daughter who recently qualified is a different proposition for some single guys out there.
