General Driving in snow and ice

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General Driving in snow and ice

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Have had 5" snow here and its not clearing and really icy ...so not ventured out in Bluebell yet, am nervous wreck driving when its icy.

Those of you with a 500 for a while, how is it in these conditions being so small? Any tips/warnings ....thanks
 
Don't over inflate the tyres. Don't rev the engine. Don't spin the wheels. Don't use the brakes, slow with the gears. Keep a long distance behind the car in front. Use your lights. Don't set out without the windows being clear. Carry a torch, a shovel, an old coat or sack (to put under slipping driving wheels) and a warm drink. If you get stuck at the bottom of a hill without traction you can reverse up.

Just do everything really slowly and carefully, and think ahead.
 
500s drive really well in these conditions, if you feel unconfident in these conditions book yourself on a skid pan course so that if you do get into a skid you will know instinctively how to react

winter tyres help as well (y)
 
Thanks guys :), am nervous normally even when I had my heavy Golf ..just wondered if the 500 being small would be even worse due to size.

I certainly won't be going out until things improve, but I will need food at some point ! :D
 
had a bit of a lucky escape yesterday i have a 37 mile trip to work on the a21 and m25 in kent . I pulled on to the a21 slip road which is a bit steep down hill half way down the car just spun round and i ended up facing the wrong way on the grass verge no damage but the abs light is now on all the time will call dealer on monday
 
The 500 like many modern cars running Bosch ECU's and related products are pretty poor, it's a mixture of a few things. They have open diffs, and as soon as the car detects wheel spin cuts the throttle, its safe but not always the best option as can make car stop moving at all.

You can't even left foot brake to stop the spinning wheel like the sudo electric diffs do because the system shuts off throttle as soon as brake pedal is pressed. Although not recommended if never done it before or had tuition in doing so.

Therefore it may be recommendable to stay at home if uncomfortable, though the 1.2 by its nature may be a little better than the 1.4 16V I used last winter by having less bhp but more lower end grunt to enable the use of higher gear to prevent wheel spin when pulling away. And you may have smaller diameter higher sidewall tyres which will be more compliant and narrower meaning better bite through snow & ice.

The 500Abarth yesterday was much much better with its sudo electric diff as it doesn't shut off throttle but brakes the spinning wheel, still no where near as good as a proper diff, Emma's FTO was markably better but it was still very good.

Best advice is if you have to go out take it easy.
 
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Fit a Quafe ATB diff. Ok, it's a bit extreme but I live up the top of a hill with a twisty road that has a couple of off camber sharp bends. In last years snow the 500 lived down the hill. This winter with the lsd fitted it just runs up the snow. :D
 
Is this an expensive job?

To be honest, yes. It's not really the kind of thing most people would want or need. :)

I fit it because my 500 masquerades as a track day car and I got tired of losing traction on tight corners. But it's also very handy in this sort of weather. All up it probably cost me about a grand to get it installed.
 
yes it is. how does the esp help in snow, any experiences?

esp seems to just kill the power. I don't find it helpful at all in these conditions from a getting traction perspective. Useful when stopping you dying in a massive spinning disaster but rubbish in the snow.
 

This was taken last year after a forty mile drive on a day when all the media were saying 'don't go out'. 500 is fine, handles the conditions as well as anyone has a right to expect from a small family car.

Modifications will, I've no doubt, improve the car's ability to cope with snow but only if combined with special tyres, tyre pressures, driving skills and balanced load, all good on a track but diffficult to achieve in real life. Most folks survive perfectly well without!

The driving advice given above is sound, mostly concentrate on the 'take it easy' and anticipate so you can ease off the speed rather than excessive braking.

If you get a chance skid pans are instructive and fun or if you venture out, perhaps with a trusted friend, and you happen to find a wide open, empty, snow covered car park then try some slow speed turns and braking in there to get a feel for what happens.

Don't scare yourself but gain experience and thus confidence - 500 is a good friend! :)




 
I'll revise my answer - do get some experience out there. An empty car park is an excellent idea. Try emergency braking, turning, accelerating, even have a play with the handbrake - all the time you're improving your driving ability... and it's quite fun too!
 
Well, not quite got 5 inches of snow here, but plenty of ice lol

My first time driving in snow/ice. Really enjoyed it actually (because I'm learning something lol). Sounds almost counter-intuitive, but the more relaxed I was behind the wheel, the easier it was. Think about it and it makes sense - nice gentle steering, accelerating, decelerating and just saying "Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" when I found myself sliding round the little car park at the bottom of the road lol

Did get a little annoyed at those idiots who take no notice of what's going on around them though!!
 
WOW ...not worth it for the amount of snow we have I guess :D


Been looking on net for idea's and saw these:

http://www.roofbox.co.uk/car-snow-socks/autosock-product.php

Anyone used them or know if they are any good?


They are supposed to be very good i have snow chains but not needed them this year (yet) ....

if i was you I'd save up and buy some bog standard steel rims (probably get some on flea bay
or a dealer who just wants rid of them where someone has upgraded to alloys )

and buy some winter tyres they really do improve road holding in the snow and are better than normal tyres on ice (but not that much better) got stuck last year on snow with normal tyres but not had any issue yet with the winter tyres

http://www.vredestein.com/Media_Nie...D=232&HerkomsttabelID=2&UserSessionID=2083552

people will argue it doesn't snow enough to warrant them but they work better in all conditions when the road surface is cold (normal tyres become hard and grip less in cold weather)






I'll revise my answer - do get some experience out there. An empty car park is an excellent idea. Try emergency braking, turning, accelerating, even have a play with the handbrake - all the time you're improving your driving ability... and it's quite fun too!

:yeahthat:

Dad took me to his work (large industrial estate) when i first passed and let me "play" this has probably saved me a couple of times since as i had a good idea what to do when things started getting a bit out of shape
 
Thanks everyone for you really useful advice ;) My main problem is I live on a hilly estate and am at the top typically :rolleyes: It is getting to the main road that is the problem, am sure once there I could manage ...if gingerly :D
 
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