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Old 14-07-2008   #1
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Why is my new 500 pre-reg?

Hi,
Just went to see my car today . It arrived last night. Its had its PDI, but it still needs a full Valet and the white plastic and bird poo removing.
But I wont be able to pick it up until Thursday because i've ordered the full bodykit. They said that the paint has to air dry and also the bodykit fixings may need a seal on them, which will also need to dry. So 3 full days still to wait .

I was told to contact a company about the free 7 day fiat insurance. But i was told that i needed to tell that my car is pre-reg for some reason. Why? 1- Is it normal for a brand new car at full price to be pre-reg?
2 - Or is it just what i need to tell this insurance company?
3 - Will the car still appear as if i'm the 1st and only owner?

Also, the Reg. i had agreed on the day i made the order and paid the deposit has now changed. Does this normally happen? Or should i be asking why and requesting the correct one (if its still avalible)?

What should have been a nice experience is now a little stressful , so any help to set my mind straight would be great.

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Re: Why is my new 500 pre-reg?

You need to ask your dealer all the above questions really, sorry but only he can help.
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Re: Why is my new 500 pre-reg?

so is it an 08 with you as the first owner? if yes then its not pre reg.
if no e/g its got an owner before you (usually the dealer) then ultimately you'r buying a 2nd hand car so should realy be a couple of hundred pound cheeper.
air drying paint it should have been painted in a heated spray booth, the bonding agent does air dry though it took an overnight stay when i had my A bar fitted.
the free insureance is a pain in the arse and the quote will be very expensive
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Re: Why is my new 500 pre-reg?

I agree with the comments above, you need to speak to the dealer manager and take a copy of the invoice, which should show that the car you have ordered is brand new.

Having had about 5 new cars over the years, i can say catagorically that if it is sold as a new car, you are the first person on the reg document, if it is pre-reg, then no your not the first person and as has been mentioned, the car should be cheaper, as any future sale or trade in will show it as having more owners than might be expected or even preferred, although this wont matter as much if kept for quite a few years.

Personally, I would demand a brand new car and if the reg document didnt support this, then I would return the car. If you have the registration, why not try one of the hpi checks for about 6.00 online? Even the dvla have a site to check the tax and registration status.

The dvla site is here, just click the vehicle enquiry:

http://www.vehiclelicence.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/

My date of registration is the day I collected the car, as supported by my reg document, which also states no previous keepers.

Hope this helps
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Re: Why is my new 500 pre-reg?

I'd certainly be very unhappy if I was paying for a brand new car and wasn't the first keeper on the V5.

Nothing wrong with pre-registered if you can get a nice hefty disount on an otherwise new car , but they should let you know in advance if that's the case.
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Cheers guys, I'll pop down and speak to the girl tomorrow. I'll see if we can iron these problems out.
I would have asked her today, but it didnt 'twig' until i was walking home, so this forum was my first 'port of call'.
Plus i would rather do it face to face than over the phone.

Its very strange that she told me to say it was a pre-reg car, why would she say that if it wasnt. But if it is then I want one hell of a discount. I didnt order and put a 500 deposit on a second hand car.

I may be jumping the gun here, 'cos everything maybe fine, but just in case, If it is pre-reg, what sort of discount should i be looking for?


White 500: I was told the guy doing the bodywork had said that he would normally put it in a heater/over but it couldnt be done with the 500 stuff.
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Re: Why is my new 500 pre-reg?

Hi KJ
You know i know the feeling. Two weeks ago I collected my 500 from the dealer Brand new. the car was ready on the 28 of June but for several reasons I wasn't able to collect the car before the 4th of July. I then sent a mail to the dealer where I specify that i wanted the car to be registered on or after the 1st of July and that i will take collection on the 4th.
Long story short, they forced me with a load of b......t (also with the excuse of a rise in the price) to register the car on the 30th of June do the 7 days free insurance starting from the monday 30th (so that they could have it taxed) and have the car registered on the 30th. Lost one month of tax that was supposed to be from the 1st of July.
All this because... they wanted to hit target to make their bonus for the 2nd quarter. Since I wasn't born yesterday when i went to collect the car I told the sale guy to tell me the truth or I was going to refuse the car, and the real story come out. I told him i was really unhappy about the lies and said that was better to tell the real story in the first place and everything was goign to be fine. So the point is there is a chance they did something like registering the car asap or did some mess with the plates and now did have to say is preregistered even if it is registered to you in the first place. You should receive the V5 by Thursday anyway (at least this is what happened to me).
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(By the way they missed the target by one car!! Their game didn't pay)
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Re: Why is my new 500 pre-reg?

Simple - you ordered a new car so you could specify the spec as its first owner. You do not want a pre-reg. I can't understand a dealer pre reg a 500 at the moment - its not like they need to register 500s as there is a glut in a compound anywhere that need to appear to be moving.

as to a discount if they have pre-reg'd then i doubt you'd get more than 200 off.

You can get the dealer to cancel the first owner, provided they state its not been delivered. I did this with a new car i rejected after the dealer had registered it ready for my collection, but i found it with damaged paintwork after its pdi.
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Re: Why is my new 500 pre-reg?

Quote Originally Posted by percymon View Post
Simple - you ordered a new car so you could specify the spec as its first owner. You do not want a pre-reg. I can't understand a dealer pre reg a 500 at the moment - its not like they need to register 500s as there is a glut in a compound anywhere that need to appear to be moving.

as to a discount if they have pre-reg'd then i doubt you'd get more than 200 off.

You can get the dealer to cancel the first owner, provided they state its not been delivered. I did this with a new car i rejected after the dealer had registered it ready for my collection, but i found it with damaged paintwork after its pdi.
I had a similar thing with the panda last year. Basically the dealer had a car coming in a week after i placed an order. I agreed to go for this car but made sure i was the first owner, so avoided the pre-reg 'tag' which lets face it you'd avoid if you can.

If however you've specced a car then no way can it be a pre-reg. Ie as they have already sold it to you then the registration must by definition be in your name first.

Pre-reg cars are those that are bought by the dealer and then because they aren't sold are registered by the dealer, hence the pre-reg tag.

Hope that makes sense!
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Quote Originally Posted by trackdayqueen View Post

Pre-reg cars are those that are bought by the dealer and then because they aren't sold are registered by the dealer, hence the pre-reg tag.
or registered by the dealer to maintain sales figures, often as part of fleet discount schemes
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Re: Why is my new 500 pre-reg?

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Also, the Reg. i had agreed on the day i made the order and paid the deposit has now changed. Does this normally happen? Or should i be asking why and requesting the correct one (if its still avalible)?
No it dosen't normally happe n Sounds like you've not got the car you've been sold

If you choose the reg, they would have done it to you there and then, sound's very dodgy. I'd ask what's happened to it. And request it back, if they've given it to someone else its their own fault!

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Re: Why is my new 500 pre-reg?

With my car, the dealer asked if they could register it by the end of June to meet their targets. I agreed as they offered to tax it for a year and a month, which is something dealers are able to do So when I picked it up I still had the tax for a whole year.
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Re: Why is my new 500 pre-reg?

only possibility is the dealers had a pre reg car in there dealer stock with the exact spec you wanted so are supplying you with it hence different number plate if this is the case you should have realy been told. yes it will be a brand new car with less than 15 miles on it but it could make you the 2nd owner so would ask for a bit of discount 250-300 or quite a few free extra's just remember you are the boss the car trade is struggling this year and they want you'r money
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Re: Why is my new 500 pre-reg?

im guessin the 7 day insurance company they use only deal with used cars, so they have told you to tell them its pre reg to get the certificate.
There is no point in them pre registering your car, id be very suprised if they had.!!
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That 7 day insurance should apply to new cars.
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