He also said dont even think about putting cheap tyres on this car...
Why
He also said dont even think about putting cheap tyres on this car...
Think of it in terms of being said to say a Porsche or Ferrari owner
WHYYeah but thats different.
You can't really be serious can youFiona tbh I'd happily use budgets if that what you want to use. Stilo eats front tyres, so budgets work out better tbh.
WHY
You can't really be serious can you
Tyres are first line consideration when it comes to safety - and can quite literally mean the difference between life & death.
Any tyre wear issues should be resolved and if you really can't afford the tyres then take the corners easier
I don't but I've still got over 20k on my P7's and they're still running
I'm sure certain makes are indeed better than others but I tend to think of tyres as a form of insurance.I choose them carefully of course, & yes I do avoid the real scary ones no-one has ever heard of...
70,000 safe miles in 4 years can't be a fluke...
Stilo eats front tyres, so budgets work out better tbh.
WHY
You can't really be serious can you
Tyres are first line consideration when it comes to safety - and can quite literally mean the difference between life & death.
Any tyre wear issues should be resolved and if you really can't afford the tyres then take the corners easier
I don't but I've still got over 20k on my P7's and they're still running
I'm sure certain makes are indeed better than others but I tend to think of tyres as a form of insurance.
A long time back I looked death in the face 3 times on a bend in the Italian/Swiss Alps (avoided 2 head ons and also avoided going over the edge). It wasn't crazy driving but a near fatal miscalculation on the existence of ice on a pass lunchtime in summer when returning from glacier skiing
I different choice of tyre might just have meant not only 3 deaths in my vehicle but also those in the oncoming car(s)
It's impossible to be certain but like I say I just look at it as insurance
So perhaps a compromise here, would you say 'better' tyres are more important front or rear? Also how much do you think minimum spend should be per tyre?
Mine don't. My Vredestein Ultracs still look as new after 2 years. No signs of uneven wear. I've got 2.8 bar in them.
I wouldn't use budget tyres on any car. Tyres and brakes stop the car, so I'd rather save some pennies somewhere else.
Depends what you call budget.
12k per a set is indeed excessive and I'd argue something is wrong with the geometry somewhere. The point to remember here is that excessive tyre wear, when due to misalignment, is likely to compromise the handling of the car so should be resolved as a matter of safety rather turning to cheaper tyres as a solution.Wear is just down to my mileage, but when a car is evenly wearing mid range tyres in 12k, I'd say thats fairly excessive, and thats mainly motorway driving, and not wheel spinning and being abusive to the tyres like some people are.
Michelin.What tyres did you have on the car out of interest?
I don't think anyone in England uses winter tyres although I suspect some might in Scotland (certainly in the highlands). In the Alps, something like 100% of drivers use winter tyres - that being pure necessity.On a similar note do you use winter tyres when average road temp drops below 7C for 4-5 months of the year in the UK?
Hmmm... not sure if you're suggesting Fiona is a novice driver.....but new should go on the back
12k per a set is indeed excessive and I'd argue something is wrong with the geometry somewhere. The point to remember here is that excessive tyre wear, when due to misalignment, is likely to compromise the handling of the car so should be resolved as a matter of safety rather turning to cheaper tyres as a solution.
I don't think anyone in England uses winter tyres although I suspect some might in Scotland (certainly in the highlands). In the Alps, something like 100% of drivers use winter tyres - that being pure necessity.
Hmmm... not sure if you're suggesting Fiona is a novice driver
I take your last paragraph first, I agree it helps with even wear front to rear, but thats not nessecarily the best way to look at it from a safety point.This reason this is contentious is because:
Front wheel skid: No driver can correct this, although assuming the car doesn't make contact with a brick wall or another car etc whilst out of control then it does at least tend to auto correct.
Rear wheel skid: A competent driver can correct this although if uncorrected it will almost certainly bring the car to stop. Once again, the proviso here is that the car doesn't hit anything before coming to a stop.
Probably fair so say that the likelihood of hitting something with a rear slide is a lot greater than for a front. That said, sliding into an oncoming car or a brick wall due to losing the front end is very likely to be fatal.
The argument therefore arises because:
There's also an unrelated reason for having the best tyres on the front which is due to the fact that front tyre ALWAYS wear faster on a FWD car. The logic being that if you ALWAYS keep the best tyres on the front then you'll end up with completely even tyre wear. This means you get to change all 4 tyres at the same time thereby neatly avoiding the prior discussion
- If you're a competent driver then you'll want the best tyres on the front.
[*]- If you're a less competent driver then you'll want the best tyres on the rear.
In a short time reading this forum I have already resolved a few things or been more informed about what I may be dealing with before I approach a mechanic. I apologise if I come across as completely stupid at times. Ideally I just like to be able get in it drive it and have it work perfectly! So Im not a novice driver but Im the first to admit I know very little about car maintenance. Sorry this went off topic.
What rims have you got them on. Seems high, my 17inch Blades are only as 2.5 bar as per hand book.
An important thing to remember when considering tyres is not just tread pattern or compound, its the way the tyre reacts to different road surfaces. Tread flexibility and tyre wall stiffness are very important when it comes to grip. A flexible tread (this does not necessarily mean a soft compound) reacts dynamically to the grain in the road and can be a very important factor when it cones to grip both in the wet and dry. You need maximum contact with the road surface. Lack of tread flexibility can lead to poor contact on some road surfaces and result in loss of grip. Tyre wall stiffness needs to be balanced. To hard and you will feel every knock and bump and can cause instability under hard acceleration. To soft and the tyre can roll in bends leading to a rather bouncy cornering experience. Cheak Chicom buit tyres have a tendancy to mimick good quality tyres with tread pattern and compunds but are seriously let down by these other factors.
You get what you pay for.