So you are blaming poor Fiat Bravo sales on them not making a powerful one?
So basically people only buy Astra's because they make a VXR, and people only buy the Focus because they make an ST.
Numbers of Astra's vs numbers of VXR will be VAST. I hardly doubt an Abarth version of the Bravo would mean they would sell huge numbers of normal ones
Just check out the Guilietta Cloverleaf 1.75 TBi... hardly sold any...
They wouldn't make a powerful one because it would create too much competition with Alfa Romeo...
There's a reason why the Abarth 500 and Abarth Grande Punto come with the same running gear as the Mito 155, and the Guiletta 170 get's a larger turbo with the same 1.4 block.
To get a Fiat with the same power as the 170bhp Guilietta you would need the "esseesse" kit on an Abarth, and that's like a £2,000 package...
To make a "hot hatch" version of the Bravo it would have to have the 1.75 TBi engine installed... but then that would further damage sales of the Alfa 159 and Guilietta Cloverleaf... there was just no reason to develop a hot version..
Spot on. He's also missing the point that Fiat didn't do an Abarth Bravo. Which would be the equivalent to the Vxr, Renault sport, ST. And those cars always come out after the main car has been selling for a year or two. Bravo wasn't selling well from day one for poor advertising. You compare the standard model engines to the Bravo and bravo wind on all but a few.
Don't worry, the Giulietta QV is coming in a facelifted version, with the twin-clutch transmission and a slight increase in power (from 235bhp to 240bhp).
Yeah but it's a higher priced seemingly limited run, think there is only about 300 uk ones apparently
Prices start close to £29000
£29000 for a Giulietta!
Stepping into Audi S4/S3 kinda money
And no manual option.
I've never seen an advert for a Bravo, not even online.
The Bravo was not a brilliant car when it was launched, and being based on old underpinnings certainly did not help.
The car looked fantastic, and the interior looked nice. That was until you drove the thing and began to use it. I remember having one for a few days as a courtesy car whilst my fault ridden GP was being repaired as usual.
It was a 1.4 t jet active. It felt quick but was worse to drive than the GP. Terrible steering that was to light, and a sense of vagueness to it. I also remembered it's grip was poor also. That nice looking interior proved to be not so nice in build and quality and the stereo was terrible.
It's not a surprise it did not sell well, it wasn't a good car!
The original Bravo when launched did sell well because that was well perceived at the time.
The only one I ever saw, ran for maybe a couple of months in mags and TV channels, then vanished.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJuI6IHqAwY
The Bravo was not a brilliant car when it was launched, and being based on old underpinnings certainly did not help.
The car looked fantastic, and the interior looked nice. That was until you drove the thing and began to use it. I remember having one for a few days as a courtesy car whilst my fault ridden GP was being repaired as usual.
It was a 1.4 t jet active. It felt quick but was worse to drive than the GP. Terrible steering that was to light, and a sense of vagueness to it. I also remembered it's grip was poor also. That nice looking interior proved to be not so nice in build and quality and the stereo was terrible.
It's not a surprise it did not sell well, it wasn't a good car!
The original Bravo when launched did sell well because that was well perceived at the time.