Technical Fiat uno Ie , problems

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hi there ,ew to the forum and just discovered this section which i hope covers my vehicle . I have an Uno Ie start , its done 110000 miles M plate :eek: . Its seems to lose revs and sometimes die completely in the lower gears , especially when taking my foot off the gas a little . This is proving to be quite dangerous pulling out at junctions !!! It doesnt seem to matter whether or not the car has warmed up or not ? Its a bit of a mystery . has anybody got any idea what this could be ? cheers koz (y)
 
Check that the fuel pump is operating correctly (is there an inline fuel filter? It might be blocked) and check the vacuum diaphragm on the distributor is working. There's loads of threads on the vacuum diaphragm so just do a search on the forum and it will come up as it's a known problem with erratic running and such when they fail.
 
Yeah.
My next suspects would be fuel/air filters, incorrect timing, spark plugs, then possibly engine temperature sensor, the idle switch on the injector assembly...
 
This sounds exactly like the problem i am also currently having with my 1.1 ie uno. Wasn't so bad at first, just hung a bit when accelerating, but could over come this by letting off the accelerator and then reapplying it. But now its really bad and the revs will drop off completely unless i pump the accelerator changing its position constantly. If the accelerator is held at a steady position the revs start to drop off regardless of where it is or temperature, which i've noticed is because of fuel being injected decreasing. If i unplug the throttle position switch it will run and idle (although slowly & roughly due to the idle switch not being set properly) normally, of course accelerating doesn't happen very well if the throttle position switch is unplugged, however, if the throttle is held slightly open while starting up, it will run just as it should and accelerate (well the engine at least). The other way i've found of getting to run properly is to unplug the ECU and then replug it in, runs fine for about a mile before getting the same problem.

I have tried changing every sensor to do with the fuel control, the throttle position switch, the idle sensor, the lambda sensor, the coolant temperature sensor, the coil, also changed the distributor, and ignition ecu.
The fact it will run properly without the throttle position switch plugged in suggests that the fuel pump is fine and i have checked fuel flow anyway, but i have changed the secondary fuel filter, and the air filter is brand new also.

I have checked the connectivity with all sensors to the ECU, and they are all fine. The only thing i haven't managed to try changing yet is the ECU itself, and i'm beginning to suspect that this may be the problem. I've ruled out any mechanical problem as it will run fine, as i have said, without the throttle position switch plugged in. The timing is correct, the spark plugs all spark, etc.

The problem started very suddenly, i had ragged it down to wales and back, then up to preston (I was based in warwick at the time), then on the way back from preston when pulling out of a service station, i found it hung rather badly when accelerating, problem continued for about 2 weeks before disappearing almost completely, until one day a couple of weeks ago it came back with a vengance, and i struggled to keep the engine ticking over and only just managed to get back to where i was staying. Here the engine wouldn't start properly, with it starting then dropping off almost immediately.
All experimenting/changing of parts detailed above then took place.

Next thing to try is changing the ECU in my view, but its a sunday, the scrap yards are closed, and i'm not even sure if it uses the same ECU as the 999cc. Really annoying coz i'm in cambridge and need to drive to preston this evening. Any other ideas or inputs are very welcome.

Ali

Additional: Its a L plate and has done 119000 miles.
 
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HI everyone
My problem is not so big maybe.
the annoyance is, during my *crazy* driving
engine starts to "shake" and while i`m shift gears
engine turn off.
guy`s in the service sad to me that is not big problem
it`s just a COMPUTER bug.
*are they right and what sould i do

SORRY FOR BAD ENGLISH

I forgot to tell my car is fiat uno 1.1 ie sx fire
 
Depends what the bug is in, did they specify where it was. The problem could be caused by the fuel system, or it could be the ignition system. Sounds like a problem i have had before with a 1.0 ie uno. Was a fault with the ignition ecu on the distributor, that little chip thing on the back. Try changing that, easy enough to get from a scrap yard.

My problem on the other hand is rather big, problem with the fuel system. Even the guy at the garage couldn't tell what was causing it! Not sure what to do now, actual engine is in good condition, fuel pressure is fine, something to do with the sensors and i've changed the majority of them, plus the diagnosis thing didn't find any faults with any of them!

Any suggestion or ideas will be very welcome.
 
This sounds exactly like the problem i am also currently having with my 1.1 ie uno. Wasn't so bad at first, just hung a bit when accelerating, but could over come this by letting off the accelerator and then reapplying it. But now its really bad and the revs will drop off completely unless i pump the accelerator changing its position constantly. If the accelerator is held at a steady position the revs start to drop off regardless of where it is or temperature, which i've noticed is because of fuel being injected decreasing. If i unplug the throttle position switch it will run and idle (although slowly & roughly due to the idle switch not being set properly) normally, of course accelerating doesn't happen very well if the throttle position switch is unplugged, however, if the throttle is held slightly open while starting up, it will run just as it should and accelerate (well the engine at least). The other way i've found of getting to run properly is to unplug the ECU and then replug it in, runs fine for about a mile before getting the same problem.

I have tried changing every sensor to do with the fuel control, the throttle position switch, the idle sensor, the lambda sensor, the coolant temperature sensor, the coil, also changed the distributor, and ignition ecu.
The fact it will run properly without the throttle position switch plugged in suggests that the fuel pump is fine and i have checked fuel flow anyway, but i have changed the secondary fuel filter, and the air filter is brand new also.

I have checked the connectivity with all sensors to the ECU, and they are all fine. The only thing i haven't managed to try changing yet is the ECU itself, and i'm beginning to suspect that this may be the problem. I've ruled out any mechanical problem as it will run fine, as i have said, without the throttle position switch plugged in. The timing is correct, the spark plugs all spark, etc.

The problem started very suddenly, i had ragged it down to wales and back, then up to preston (I was based in warwick at the time), then on the way back from preston when pulling out of a service station, i found it hung rather badly when accelerating, problem continued for about 2 weeks before disappearing almost completely, until one day a couple of weeks ago it came back with a vengance, and i struggled to keep the engine ticking over and only just managed to get back to where i was staying. Here the engine wouldn't start properly, with it starting then dropping off almost immediately.
All experimenting/changing of parts detailed above then took place.

Next thing to try is changing the ECU in my view, but its a sunday, the scrap yards are closed, and i'm not even sure if it uses the same ECU as the 999cc. Really annoying coz i'm in cambridge and need to drive to preston this evening. Any other ideas or inputs are very welcome.

Ali

Additional: Its a L plate and has done 119000 miles.


Ali, i have EXACTLY the same problem (UNO 45 i.e. 999c), my engine stops when hot, also the idle is going crazy, up and down. I didn't take off the plug of iddle switch, but i changed the position of the switch (maximum clockwise), so now the iddle is down, engine works a little better, but the problem is not resolved.
I changed the ECU, it works at begining, but after one day the problems came back. I changed the choke actuator, the fuel pump and the ECU. But no results.
In hot days, i can drive the fiat only with the cooling fan (of the radiator) permanently ON.
Please, if you find something, let me know. Also i will.
Good luck!
 
I think i resolved my problem.
I put a new ignition module, and the engine works fine. I hope the problem will not come again.
 
Glad you managed to resolve your problem. I've changed that module several times already.

Took it to a second garage today, instead of finding the problem he decided the timing was wrong, which it wasn't so messed that up, then couldn't find the problem and charged £45 for that pleasure. Given up, would it be possible to fit a carburetter on instead of the SPI?

Cheers,
Ali
 
Well my Uno has almost the same problem at the moment. I had driven her up country (roughly about 200km and and another 200km coming back) for a holiday and the Tuesday after that it started giving problems. My mechanic couldn't find any problem, everything seems fine and in working order, I took it to a second mechanic and he changed a small square component on my carburator (sorry I am a lady and can't remember the technical term), that fixed my problem for a few months but now the problem is back. Yesterday he changed the Fuel Pump but that hasn't solved the problem either. When I leave for work in the mornings I can drive for up to about 30 minutes before she decides to lose revs and die on me. After she dies I can wait fr about 15 minutes and drive another half hour or so before she does the same. She cuts out whether she is hot or not. My mechanic can't see anything else wrong with the car an it's annoying having to wait after the car stalls on the side of the road and try and get further everytime.

I am extremely upset because she is my first car and I don't really want to sell her yet (until I get enough money to buy one of the new Uno models), has anybody been able to fix this problem yet or discover what it is?
 
Hi Raz and welcome to the forum :wave:

The 'square thing' that was changed on your carburettor was probably a diaphragm. They last about 5 - 10years and then they perish and no long work with a vacuum. As to your problem, a few things spring to mind.

It could be a fuel starvation problem caused by a blocked breather in the petrol tank or a blocked fuel filter. Next time your Uno stops working when you're driving, take off the petrol cap and then see if it will start (instead of waiting 15 mins). If it does it's a blocked tank breather.

Check the inline fuel filter (if it has one).

If the car always starts fine when cold but only causes problems after you've been driving for a bit (as you say) then the ignition amplifier on the distributor could be on the way out. This is the small silver finned unit that bolts onto the side of the distributor. When your car loses revs and dies again, very carefully check to see how hot the unit is i.e. hold your hand near the unit without touching it. If it is radiating a lot of heat then that means it's running too hot and could be the cause of your problems.

Lastly, when did your Uno last have a proper service?
 
Hi, thanks for all your information, I will give this to the mechanic that is working on the car (obviously can't find the problem), and make sure he checks everything and when I get the car back and she dies again I will check everything as well..

The car had a service a few months ago only (a short while before started packing up in the first place).

I see so many Uno's driving along, they can't be that bad can they? She has done a lot of kilometres though (244 000), she is a 1997 model Uno Cento. I bought her last year after I passed my drivers. I don't really want to part with her.

Hi Raz and welcome to the forum :wave:

The 'square thing' that was changed on your carburettor was probably a diaphragm. They last about 5 - 10years and then they perish and no long work with a vacuum. As to your problem, a few things spring to mind.

It could be a fuel starvation problem caused by a blocked breather in the petrol tank or a blocked fuel filter. Next time your Uno stops working when you're driving, take off the petrol cap and then see if it will start (instead of waiting 15 mins). If it does it's a blocked tank breather.

Check the inline fuel filter (if it has one).

If the car always starts fine when cold but only causes problems after you've been driving for a bit (as you say) then the ignition amplifier on the distributor could be on the way out. This is the small silver finned unit that bolts onto the side of the distributor. When your car loses revs and dies again, very carefully check to see how hot the unit is i.e. hold your hand near the unit without touching it. If it is radiating a lot of heat then that means it's running too hot and could be the cause of your problems.

Lastly, when did your Uno last have a proper service?
 
The Uno isn't a bad car at all but 244,000km is pretty high mileage so you can't blame the poor girl from having a few issues every now and then.

I'd also suggest the ignition amplifer part that Uno1986Uno45s has suggested. The original posters had fuel injection which is different.
 
Thanks guys for the help. My mechanic ended up changing the ignition module (which I presume in general terms would be the ignition amplifier you all talked about as it was the small silver finned object) and so far so good. What has me slightly stumped is that that's the part they replaced in May already, why would it go faulty again so quickly? I don't want to have to replace it again in a few months time. Is it somthing I am doing while I am driving? Thanks
 
To AliBarnett,

If the car dies, could it startup rightaway again, or only if it cooled down? If it won't start, pour cold water on the flyweel position sensor if it start then, you have your problem, in tests it would seem right, coz it only is defective when hot.

Carburator? Yes, yes and yes. I have a uno 1400 pacer sx, had a monojet, now a carb, had a digiplex igition system, now a normal distributor.
 
hello i have been plaiged this year with a really ANOYING problem with my uno 1.4 70ie start plus rally car. i got the car 2 years ago and it was great it would miss a beat every now and then when you lift off no real problem there and it still does it now and then now. a few months ago i put a low millage engine in and did some light head work and a 20thow skim on the head put it back in the car and it ran no problem. on the next event i did it ran faultless all day and over night during the even it developed a missfire but not a typical damp type one just weired it would be going along really well then just go to an idle speed sort of thing when on any throttle. it didnt cut out at all. changed cap and rotor and leads on the event. it would go away and then start again. ended up retiring in the early hours of the morning and playing with the fuel filter took that out as thought it could be blocked. it had cooled down then and run ok.

i drive the car to and from work and its never a problem next event after changing the coil pack cap and rotor and inspected the leads that were newish it did exactly the same thing just cant seem to think why??? it did seem to be bump related to a point but that could mean many things. after the event i changed the throttle position sensor and have looked at all the wiring no faults found. i am now posibly thinking well almost convinced it is the ignition module the silver finned med 439a only thing is fiat dont do them anymore and they would of been £440 ouch bet they sold lots lol.

another thing is that after the engine swap it has had a rally note on idle which i put down to the raised comression and also it allmost sort of hunts when at a constant redd say 3k it flutuates between 2900 and 3200

am i on the right lines with the ignition module as i can get one off ebay currently for £60 expensive i no as i have seen them for £40 has any one got one laying about???

many thanks Rob
 
new ignition module fitted and it is running like new hadnt noticed that the rev limit was lower than used to be also but now pulling up to 7000rpm
 
My car started and idled, then just died and won't start again. I have put in a new distribetor, getting feul, getting spark, but it just swings and won't start. Please guys any advice?
 
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