General When to change up/down - 1.2 petrol

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General When to change up/down - 1.2 petrol

I don't know about when to change up/down but I *have* given up driving like an old man and now drive my 500 like a fiat should be driven (like i used to drive my seicento sporting), and my MPG are improving! I'm amazed but now I'm not looking at my Instant MPG and trying to drive 'eco friendly' i am now getting 50mpg average on a tank.
 
Did you see the Top Gear review of the 500 where James May said that you should have a little engine that you rev and rev until "the valves pop out and dance on the bonnet" that is how it should be driven, unless im low on fuel, I change up about 3000-4000
 
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We had a 900cc cinquecento for several years and we used to thrash it everywhere, it was great fun. Must say my mrs used to make it sing much better than I did tho, it responded to her style of driving better than mine! Reviews at the time used to say that it was a feature of the engine that you could drive it about near max revs all day and the car would love it, it was true too. Cant wait to get my 1.2 500 to see how much fun it is squirting it about!
 
Apparently you should change gear at 2,500 rpm for best fuel economy.
I get terriffic fuel economy doing that.
However, I gave it a good kicking on the motorway today. I don't think the 1.2 engine can ever be properly run-in unless you give it 4,000 rpm or more once you've done the first 500 miles.
The 1.2 just seems to like being screwed. My kind of filly that is. :)
 
economy up to 2000rpm.
ecomomy with decent progress 2500-3500rpm (peak torque at 3000).

best fun - lots of revs (ONLY once engine is up to temperature i.e. 10-15 minutes into the journey) :)
 
600-odd miles in, I'm also about to find out the answer to this question.

I took the first 500 miles nice and easy - as I always do with a tight,new engine, keeping it to no more than 3000rpm, and getting there quite gently.

Now we're the other side of 500 miles, I'll occasionally push her up to 4500rpm.

Having tried that a couple of times, I'm beginning to find out where the torque really cuts in - remembering that it's not a diesel of course, which I'm more used to these days - and I have to say, there's definitely some poke there if you go looking.

When we're passed 1000 miles, we'll see what the red line feels like - a place I've not been since my 2.0 litre Honda Accord; there's absolutely no point going red with diesel!

Curiously, the only torque figures I can find for the 1.2 read 75lbft at 3000rpm (I'm more accustomed to 185lbft at 1900rpm) - having been beyond that, it definitely feels like there's more to come.

Economy wise, we're averaging 44.3 over three fills - that will no doubt improve as she loosens up.

Having said that, this is a spreadsheet figure based on fill-up figures - the corresponding computer figure is 49.1, with a high of 55.

I had an acquaintance who's pride and joy was an Alfa 33 that he always drove carefully and slowly.

He took it in for a service which ended up in some major engine surgery to remove a huge mass of oily slime, a major telling-off from the mechanic, and a driving lesson from him that basically hammered his 33 to the red line and beyond.

Mechanic logic - Italian engines are built to rev; anything else will damage them.

My conclusion?

Go as far up the rev range as you feel comfortable with - you'll find your own happy mix of performance and economy, though I don't think there's reason to worry with the 1.2 as it clearly has poke and delivers more to the gallon than my trusty diesel Touran can manage!
 
I tend to change up at about 3,000 for general driving, but once every so often I go on a longer journey and about 20 mins in I'll give it a thrashing. :D
 
I dont know if its relevent, but during the first 500 miles I was shifting up about 2000, and the RPM sensor died, causing the EPU to kill the engine. After a repair at the dealer, I now shift up much later and I have had no problems what so ever. At the dealer I was told that it could be related to my "new driver" driving style ~(i.e shifting up too early)
 
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i'm trying to make the ecodrive happy and changing up at about 2000rpm, but i tend to put quite a lot of vibrations through the flywheel at such low revs...after reading this forum i think i'm going to let the ecodrive insult me and just rev it like a crazy man...for fear of a broken 1.2!
 
"Use the force Luke"

stop looking at the rev counter and drive the car by feel, you will know when to change up instinctively, get to feel the torque curve and response of the engine.

I have a Cinq with the 1.2 engine and find it very torquey but also produces good power all the way to the 6500 rpm limiter

driving it like a granny will make it gunk up and need more maintenance; increasing cost.

i am sure you will have heard of the term "Italian Tune Up"...
 
10 mins to warm through then 4k rpm in first three gears on the gentle commute through Torino city centre of a morning in swmbo 1.2, with liberal use of the horn and friendly hand signals too.
 
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