Panda (Classic) What have I done?

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Panda (Classic) What have I done?

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Hello everyone,
I think I may have made a big mistake. A guy I know says to me "Can you give me a hand pulling this old car out of the barn so that the scrap man can take it away?" "Of course" I say, "No problem." After all the guy in question has given me a lot of work over the years and it would be rude not to. "It's just an old Fiat Panda" he says "Scrap man says he'll give £90 for it, shame though because it's a 4x4 and I think they're quite rare".
Now, I read Practical Classics mag every month and I hate the idea of stuff going to the scrappy so I get a bit interested. "Tell you what, I'll take it off your hands if you want." I heard a voice say, my voice it would appear. And before I could ask for authorisation from the boss we had it winched out of the barn and onto a trailer before I could ask pertinent questions like "Does it run? What's all that brown flakey stuff lying on the ground? Why does it smell like a rats lavatory inside?" The basic upshot of this rambling nonsense is that I now own a formerly red, formerly road worthy 1987 panda 4x4 plus (plus what I don't know) which, as we speak, is quietly leaving marks all over my decking (onto which it had to be lowered down a small flight of steps by the way). It hasn't run for about 12 years and is suffering from tin worm in all the usual places. It's been under its sheet since I collected it in Feb so I had a look under the bonnet yesterday. Cut a long story short, engine looks ok but a bit perturbed by the loose spark plugs and some water in the bores. Think it's rain rather than coolant as there wasn't any water in the oil. Head's off and looks ok as do the the pistons and bores. The rest of it I haven't had the courage to look at yet.
Basically, I've got seven years until my son turns 17 and needs it for his test. Any help from the collective would be most appreciated.
Thanks for listening.
 
welcome to the forum :) they often look worse than they are, engines are common as fiat still use them just a big bigger on the insides so there be no problems if yours turns out to be dead

my 4x4 had a rat in for a while, they like pandas, has it eaten the seats?
 
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Hi, welcome to the Forum. (y)

To answer the question in the title - You've done a great and wise thing (y).

Great that you've saved it from the scrap man, and wise because it's a brilliant car for a lad to own as his first.

I recommend you start a members motors thread on it with plenty of pictures, from there we can can give you all the help and advice you need.
 
Hi Dave,
The engine actually looks ok now that it's cleaned up a bit. I found the service manual and it had been regularly serviced up to 90,000 miles (103,000 on it now). The mice (rats is a bit of an exaggeration) have had a go at the head rests and possibly the wiring (says the former owner!) but I expect to have to strip the whole thing before I'm done so not too bothered.
 
And hello VmanC
I've taken a few photos for the record so, when I've worked out how to, I'll shove them on here. It was driven into the barn 12 odd years ago although I think it might be another twelve before it rides again!
 
Welcome...get yourself to the classic panda part of the forum. Plenty of rebuilds in threads to give you inspiration...just do a search to find them.

I rebuilt mine and when I worked it out the actual time it took from strip down to completion it was not alot. The paint shop I used dragged their heels upping the time it took. I reckon if you had the time straight through with all the parts you need ready ( I know very few people have the time!) it could be done in two and a half weeks.....
 
Welcome...get yourself to the classic panda part of the forum. Plenty of rebuilds in threads to give you inspiration...just do a search to find them.

I rebuilt mine and when I worked it out the actual time it took from strip down to completion it was not alot. The paint shop I used dragged their heels upping the time it took. I reckon if you had the time straight through with all the parts you need ready ( I know very few people have the time!) it could be done in two and a half weeks.....
Trouble is Purple Haze, I don't have the time or the skill, that's why it'll take (at least) 7 years. What's the weather like in Riyadh? Changeable I would imagine.
 
And hello VmanC
I've taken a few photos for the record so, when I've worked out how to, I'll shove them on here. It was driven into the barn 12 odd years ago although I think it might be another twelve before it rides again!

If you click on 'gallery' in the blue strip at the top of any page you can then 'create an album'. From this you can add pictures from your album/s to a post by clicking on the camera symbol above the box you type in.
 
Trouble is Purple Haze, I don't have the time or the skill, that's why it'll take (at least) 7 years. What's the weather like in Riyadh? Changeable I would imagine.

Weather not as good as Berkshire..;)...you can have fun with the flag and location part of the forum...well kind of fun, guess its not that funny.
 
did i mention the panda lot are all a bit crazy??



but in a good way, love you guys :hug:

I love you too...but not in the same way. You see it's me not you and the feeling has just gone. I still want to be friends, and perhaps we could met every now and then for a coffee...it's just that at the moment I need my own space...:D

As people have said...we will give you all the help you need to get the 4x4 on the road. Saving these little cars is a bit of a mission of ours.
 
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Aw thanks for the welcome guys. Help is definitely one of those things that I'll need although it'll have to wait for a bit now cos I'm doing a Pharmacy degree and I've got tonnes of work to do. And it's turned cold again. And (insert other lame excuse here). I'll try and get some photos of the extraction and trailering of the beast into position as soon as I can. Just out of interest, should I start a thread in the classic Panda section for the photos or just stick em on here (haven't really done forums (or is it fora?) before).
 
Hail, Welcome to Fiat Forum.
You have done a great thing here saving the panda 4x4.

i bought a panda 4x4 sisley this time last year. it was a farm rescue via ebay. it had many faults, rust, engine not running right, rust, phantom electronics and.. rust (there was more).
anyway on December 25th (Christmas day!) i got it taxed. so now it is fully road going.

as i restored Talon (my panda sisley) i documented most things on video. if you want, check a few of them out to see what you can expect. (link is at the bottom of my post)
my restoration thread, like everyone elses in the panda classic section, is an absolute gold mine of information for anyone looking to restore the classic panda.

and i must say, the fiat panda 4x4.. has got to be the best first car... ever.
i am quite new to driving and myself wanted the fiat panda as my first car, but it is my 2nd car (well 3rd if you class the corsa i could never afford to insure) the first on road car was a fiat cinquecento.

I wish you all the best with the restoration, and look forward to seeing its progress.

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John Dragon Man
 
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