Tuning Upper strut bar on fiat seicento with A/C

[Silencer]

Hello again, the question today is if i can fit a wiechers strut bar on a fiat seicento with air conditioning. http://www.fiat-sportiva.de/Tuning-Styling/Seicento/Suspensions/Wiechers-Steel-Strutbar::842.html

 

[P1T0L]

Hello There.
Hopefully may give U answer. Depend is a Sei SPI or MPI? I got an MPI A/C and I bought an OMP one which I think isn't really suitable coos at the beginning air filter box was touching to brace when engine was running and when I solve the problem than was up the bonnet.
Still U'll see on Yours.
My luck is different ?



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[Silencer]

Spi engine but i will change the intake with Dexcraft.
Some photos to watch the ac tubes coming out.

 

[Ouby]

....can fit a wiechers strut bar on a fiat seicento with air conditioning....http://www.fiat-sportiva.de/Tuning-Styling/Seicento/Suspensions/Wiechers-Steel-Strutbar::842.html

Unless you've fitted a 1.4 16v engine without anyone noticing why bother
It's totally unnecessary -you will get more benefit from fitting a lower strut brace once you've sorted your suspension.
Have you bought & fitted new springs/shocks yet?

 

[P1T0L]

U got an SPI so even wit out any mods U should't have any problems.


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[Silencer]

Ouby i speak for the upper one not the lower.
I don't have changed the suspension kit yet but maybe I will go for Koni str-t shocks and Eibach pro kit springs.
If i make the car lower and fit the lower strut bar i will scratch the ground and make sparks on every road hole. Haha!

I understand that I have a spi engine i ask because there are the metallic tubes coming out as you can see in the photos i post.

 

[Silencer]

There is no one ever install a upper strut bar on a fiat seicento with air conditioning?

 

[P1T0L]

Best bet will be if U ask seller about. I've had same worries but about it. OMP on MPI fits without any problems but U wanna buy different make 4 U're SPI so if doesn't fit when U receive it than U should be able to send it back?
Looks if U don't try than not gonna know???
By my opinion it will fits without touching AC pipes.
This is my one.



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[Huwbishop]

As said already, you will waste you're money if you buy one of them. If you read any material on modifying suspension, they all say you get more benefit from reducing unsprung weight, and increasing anti roll stiffness etc.

How can a piece of pipe bolted to the top of you're strut make any significant difference to the handling of a car. If the strut moved that much, after all the years the car has been on the road it would have suffered metal fatigue and split the strut top.

If you really want to stiffen you're chassis up, seam weld everything and weld bracing onto the suspension mounting points.

If the car is being used on the road, it would be detrimental to have too stiff a set up anyway, any chassis has to have some flex. Otherwise you move stress onto suspension components.

If you want a shiny red piece of metal to make you're engine bay look nice, carry on. Otherwise invest that money in better shocks, springs, anti roll bars and poly bushes.

 

[Silencer]

Thanks for the answers. I will buy new springs and shocks as i said but i cant buy lower springs because as i said i will scratch the road in every hole and bump in the road maybe i can go 10-20mm lower.

When you say invest money on anti roll bar where i can find a after market one?

Front and rear poly bushes from powerflex cost here in Greece 200€ without bushes for anti roll bar.

Maybe then i just can only go for stock or 20mm lower than sporting height and a good set of shocks.

The car turns like a boat now. i think it has the stock Suspensions after 160.000km and i have never be in a seicento with new stock or aftermarket suspension kit to understand if i need the strut bars or not.

 

[Huwbishop]

If you do a search, I'm sure I read a post where someone had bought an aftermarket anti-roll bar. Also check out the black box's posts, he has a rear arb.

Have you looked at strongflex bushes rather than powerflex?

They are on eBay, from Poland, a fraction of the cost of powerflex.

My cinquecento has a 40mm drop from sporting levels, it isn't that low. Remember when you drop the suspension height, you also increase the stiffness of the spring to compensate for the reduction in travel. So you're not much more likely to catch the road really.

Check out Duncan and jatkinson's cinqs, they are properly slammed.