Technical turbo conversion

[minimanuno]

i want to turn my 1.0 fiat uno fire 1992 to a 1.3 mk1 turbo engine i have found a engine but i want it fitting. do any modifications need to be done to fit this engine or is it just plug and play i also want to know about how much it would cost to get it fitted

 

[Chas Uno]

i want to turn my 1.0 fiat uno fire 1992 to a 1.3 mk1 turbo engine i have found a engine but i want it fitting. do any modifications need to be done to fit this engine or is it just plug and play i also want to know about how much it would cost to get it fitted

No disrespect, but if you need to ask questions like those then you really haven't grasped just how much is required to do the conversion. You need much, much more than just a turbo engine to convert a 1.0 Uno into a 1.3 turbo. Bear in mind there are differences between mk1 and mk2 turbo engines so you would run into issues using a mk2 Uno with a mk1 turbo system. It can be done but it will need a lot of work.

First thing I would suggest is if you haven't got one already then buy yourself a Haynes workshop manual. Then read the entire supplement section covering the turbo model, including the wiring diagrams, which will then give you an idea of what is involved with the turbo versions.

You will need all the following from a turbo Uno to convert yours: engine, gearbox, exhaust system, gear linkages, turbocharger, intercooler, oil cooler, radiator + fan, wiring loom, ecu's, cooling system, engine/ gearbox mounts. You will also need the wiring loom under the dashboard, fusebox, additional relays, fuel tank, fuel pump, fuel lines and the turbo instrument cluster. Then you will need the entire braking system, suspension, rear beam axle with disc brakes, front anti-roll bar, struts, shocks and springs, braking system including servo and master cylinder, wheels/ tyres.

The above is not an all inclusive list so there well may be more parts you would need to make the conversion work. It also doesn't include the interior and exterior body/ trim parts that you will also need to do the full conversion.

Sorry to rain on your plans, but better to know exactly what's involved than to buy an engine thinking that's all you need. If you do still want to go and do this conversion then plan well ahead, gather the parts required and get cracking! You will also find people on here that can help you with any queries that arise so feel free to ask away.

Good luck!

Chas

 

[jo0lz]

Frankly it would be easier and cheaper to buy one or other of the two uno turbos that are currently advertised on the Turbo Collective Forum. . . .

 

[minimanuno]

cheers for your help lads i think ill give it a rest but is there any other way to make the 1.0 liter go quicker

 

[Byrne99]

cheers for your help lads i think ill give it a rest but is there any other way to make the 1.0 liter go quicker

yip, drive it downhill, with teh wind at your rear

just kidding dude.

 

[Chas Uno]

cheers for your help lads i think ill give it a rest but is there any other way to make the 1.0 liter go quicker

Swap in an 8v 1108 or 1242 FIRE engine. They're readily available, cheap and will hook up with all your existing drivetrain and parts. You may need an exhaust spacer for the 1242 but other than that it's pretty much "plug and play"

 

[EssexUno]

Drop a punto 75 866 cam in or a panda 4x4 cam. They should give the 999cc engine breath a bit better and raise the bhp about 4hp give or take.

You could also replace the 999cc fire engine with the 1242cc punto 60 engine. With this engine it is simply plug n play. The engine will run with the same ignition as the 1.0ie uno, so no electrics will need to be swapped.

Dan

 

[minimanuno]

how much would it cost to take my uno to a garage and have the punto engine fitted and please could someone send me a link to the cams i could buy and also will there be a problem with with the fuelling because i think my uno fire is carb injection and i think the puntos are fuel injection would this be a problem

 

[Jai]

how much would it cost to take my uno to a garage and have the punto engine fitted

how long's a piece of string? every garage will quote their own price, you have to decide what the worth is to you

and please could someone send me a link to the cams i could buy and also will there be a problem with with the fuelling because i think my uno fire is carb injection and i think the puntos are fuel injection would this be a problem

google kent or cat cams,

btw: the answer to my question is twice the distance from one end to the middle.....

 

[Chas Uno]

how much would it cost to take my uno to a garage and have the punto engine fitted and please could someone send me a link to the cams i could buy and also will there be a problem with with the fuelling because i think my uno fire is carb injection and i think the puntos are fuel injection would this be a problem

How much would it cost? I'm afraid this is much like asking how long a piece of string is! Different garages would charge you different amounts so you'll have to shop around and discuss what you require. Don't even bother with a main dealer as they'll charge the earth, what you need is a good independent local garage that is known for doing good work. Do some research locally and see what you can come up with.

Regarding camshafts, again, shop around. 4x4 cams are rare, and Punto 75 cams aren't much better! The cams you are after are those fitted ONLY to the classic Panda 999cc 4x4 and the Punto 75 MPi. Place a wanted advert in the forum classifieds and see if anyone has one though bear in mind Punto 75 cams in particular are very sought after. Classifieds are here:

https://www.fiatforum.com/classifieds

Otherwise look on Ebay and in your local breakers yard.

However, I would suggest that fitting a camshaft to your 999cc engine will cost almost as much as swapping in a bigger engine. So weigh up your options and the availability of the parts you require.

Carb injection/ fuel injection = same thing. Most of the mk1 Puntos used an SPi (single point injection system) throttle body that your Uno also has. You can use your existing Uno SPi to run the bigger FIRE engines though in an ideal world you could swap in the Punto SPi though this may need changes to the wiring.

Also one very important point to make regarding upping the power on any car is to consider your brakes and suspension. Upgrading to a 1242 Punto 60 engine should be fine, but anything more then you need to ensure that your existing brakes and suspension are able to handle the extra power safely. Extra power is useless if your soggy suspension wants to send you to the nearest ditch and your brakes are incapable of stopping you from higher speeds

Lastly, get yourself a Haynes manual and tools and learn some basic mechanics. It won't take you long before you can do an engine swap yourself

 

[Jai]

How much would it cost? I'm afraid this is much like asking how long a piece of string is!

plagarism!!!! you sir have been challenged:

i demand satisfaction on the field of battle........:slayer:

 

[Chas Uno]

plagarism!!!! you sir have been challenged:

i demand satisfaction on the field of battle........:slayer:

I started writing my post before you posted yours, therefore I didn't see your post. Mine took longer to write as it was more comprehensive therefore you must have plagarised me via telepathy.

:nerner:

 

[Jai]

I started writing my post before you posted yours, therefore I didn't see your post. Mine took longer to write as it was more comprehensive therefore you must have plagarised me via telepathy.

:nerner:

so you're saying you are slow? should be an easy kill.....

 

[Chas Uno]

so you're saying you are slow? should be an easy kill.....

Mine was full of useful, carefully researched and comprehensive information that took time to compile. Yours meanwhile...

:nerner:

 

[unomad]

kids back in your boxes

 

[jo0lz]

 

[minimanuno]

would the standerd gearbox out of my uno 1.0 fire fit the punto 60 engine and i am a training mechanic but am not confident to do it. i know it is impossible to tell me the price of a new engine fit just what do you think the price is going to be at a back street garage and is there anything i need to buy to do this conversion

 

[minimanuno]

my friend who is a trained mechanic has offered to help me is it just a plug and play job? and would it be a good idea to buy a donor car.

 

[Chas Uno]

would the standerd gearbox out of my uno 1.0 fire fit the punto 60 engine and i am a training mechanic but am not confident to do it. i know it is impossible to tell me the price of a new engine fit just what do you think the price is going to be at a back street garage and is there anything i need to buy to do this conversion

Yes, the standard gearbox in your Uno 1.0 will fit the Punto 60 engine.

Pricing this swap is very hard because you'll probably find most people here do this kind of swap themselves. Put it this way, with the right equipment you'll be looking at at least an afternoon to do the swap properly. A backstreet garage will probably charge around £50 per hour just for labour. Work it out, an afternoon's work at £50 per hour so you'll start looking at £250 as a ballpark figure. That's obviously not including the cost of the engine itself and any other parts that you may need. Then you may have to add VAT on top of this. The only way you're going to find out is by going to some garages and asking for a quote as prices can vary wildly between garages and across the country.

As has already been mentioned, you can swap the 1242 directly in place of your 999 engine and use all the parts from the 999 engine to run the 1242. It would be better to have the 1242 throttle body and ecu but the 1242 will run ok with 999 parts. The only exception may be the need for an exhaust spacer to hook the 1242 exhaust manifold to the 999cc system. However, you may be able to use the 1242 Punto downpipe but unless you do the conversion or find out from someone who has you won't know until you get there.

You also need to weigh up the costs of what you are proposing with the cost of getting another Uno with a bigger engine as standard. 1.4 i.e. Unos occasionally pop up for sale and will give you an instant power hike over your 999cc model. Chances are one will also cost less than you will pay a garage to swap a 1242 into yours. So unless you really want to keep your 999cc Uno perhaps you're better off selling it and buying a bigger engined Uno in the first place. Oh, and do bear in mind as well the insurance implications of doing an engine swap. The younger you are the more your insurance company will frown at such conversions, and your insurance will increase considerably, possibly astronomically as a result.

That leaves two areas for you to research before going any further. 1, ask some local garages what they will charge to swap an engine over for you and 2, call your insurance company and ask them to quote you again for your car with an engine swap.

Do this and let us know what you find, then the next step can be decided. Good luck!

 

[rawill]

kids back in your boxes

Can I have a piece of that string!