Technical that damn code thing again arghhhhh

[sporting1.6akaJunk]

:bang: hi all!

i am the owner of a 96N 1.6 (8v) 90bp sporting.
on christmas day my car just died on a busy road locally, no warning or warning lights (lol) appeared just the code light. there she stayed until R.A.C. towed her home today.
now i have tried the red key and both of my blue keys, as the manual describes, to little success. now and again i can get rid of the code light only to find the injection system light appears on? further investigation proved that there is no power to my fuel servos.

can i overide this? my local dealership are filling my head with all sorts (bs). money wise were talkin big bucks they say.

now am i better off letting a independant diagnostics expert have a play, or is the call to the dark side of the dealership far greater?

input would be soooo useful, and thanks.
p.s. wicked forum, especially the videos of that 1.6 turbo punto from italy, cooooool!:slayer:

 

[T14086]

Needs a code box.

 

[sporting1.6akaJunk]

with the correct part could someone with average auto electrics experience carry out the task?

thanks for your response, much app.

 

[T14086]

Cant answer that as i'm biased

Intermittent code light/non-starting common on these,it might not happen again for months but when it does it always happens at worst time

Doesn't this model have a code over-ride sequence?

 

[hormanncinq]

You are correct in saying there is no power to the fuel pump. The ecu will not supply the fuel pump with power unless the code box tells it that the key has the correct code there for the problem lies with the key and the code box not communication. it is possible to bypass the code box by running an ignition live wire to the pump so it comes on with the ignition but then the fuel cut off wont work in the event of a crash so not sure if Puntos have these but if so might be a bit dodgy doing this. If you need any more info let me know

 

[dave]

how come you had to wait all that time for R.A.C. to tow it
pm oldschool i think he can remove the code system from your ecu

 

[sporting1.6akaJunk]

temporary wire is good, but like you say hormanncinq a bit dodgy!
i have heard of the code overide, but does this require sending the ecu away to be wiped?

 

[sporting1.6akaJunk]

thanks dave, a little faith i like it!
its gettin crushed if i fail, the car that is!

and new code systems are available from....................................?
thanks for all the info so far guys

 

[dave]

i have heard of the code overide, but does this require sending the ecu away to be wiped?

yep unless you live near him, i cant see how hot wireing the pump would work as far as i am aware the imobilizer cuts out ignition system as well

 

[hormanncinq]

I may be wrong but in my cinq I did that with the fuel pump as I fitted a superfire engine and I couldn't think of another way to get it to work as the ecu needed a different code to what my keys had.

 

[dave]

well lets hope it dont work or you have just posted up how to steal a fiat for all the crooks in the world to see

 

[sporting1.6akaJunk]

the dealership service tech said that these cars are un stealable.
dave, hormancinq, T14086 could any of yourselves reccomend any one that wipes these ECU's? and do i send just the code ecu?

 

[T14086]

Dave is right,cuts out management aswell,code box is only £68.

 

[sporting1.6akaJunk]

Dave is right,cuts out management aswell,code box is only £68.

is that from the dealership T14086?
and will it affect out else? i.e. keys?

 

[T14086]

Add hours labour just to confirm fault & fit box,

 

[sporting1.6akaJunk]

thanks for the info guys, will have a wander down to the dealership and the scrappie tomorrow and see what we can find!
the new box will recognize the old keys?

 

[sporting1.6akaJunk]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4599318053&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT hey guys, do you think this could float my boat?

 

[dave]

that works out at more than a new box an hours labout though dont it?

 

[sporting1.6akaJunk]

well if JUST the new code box needs doing, i will attempt to swap it tomorrow, asuming i can get one......

1.6 are like rocking horse s**t to ge hold of parts thats why i put the link up.

 

[T14086]

Doubt if it will sell,could wait until relisted at lower price?(offer him £50+10post)

Old keys OK aslong as got red key,you can check the code box using a multimeter but b*gger if I can find the spec/measurements.