General Stilo Abarth Selespeeds - Really that bad?

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General Stilo Abarth Selespeeds - Really that bad?

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Looking around at stilo abarths and they really do not fetch a lot of money considering the spec of these cars and i have to say after having a stilo for a few months now i do think they are fantastic cars. I'm quite tempted to go for an abarth stilo in the future and would probably prefer the manual...although autos are also appealing as they can be lovely to drive...and the autos all seem much cheaper.
Ive heard some bad things about the stilo abarth selespeed box such as generally lacking in responsiveness, clunky and horrible when cold etc. Are they really that bad??
 
If you want my opinion [not welcomed by some] stick with the manual box ..the sillyspeed box can be fraut with problems..even a simple clutch slave cylinder change is a major head ache as its inside the bell housing of the box.better the devil you know than the devil you dont..
 
its not that theyre bad at all, theyre just high maintainance and need care. i personally think theyre fab and a lot of fun.

WRT to the prices, thanks the the tax hikes, ALL large engined petrol cars have dropped a lot in price. I was looking at 03/04 jags last month for under £3k! :eek:

I really really think getting a cared for decent abarth is WELL worth the money (y)
 
its not that theyre bad at all, theyre just high maintainance and need care. i personally think theyre fab and a lot of fun.

WRT to the prices, thanks the the tax hikes, ALL large engined petrol cars have dropped a lot in price. I was looking at 03/04 jags last month for under £3k! :eek:

I really really think getting a cared for decent abarth is WELL worth the money (y)

Stilo abarth= bottomless money pit..behave or I'll smack your arse..aint you spent enough already..:nono:
 
Stilo abarth= bottomless money pit..behave or I'll smack your arse..aint you spent enough already..:nono:


They are a lot of car for the money as it is but i wouldnt want to get a selespeed because theyre cheaper then end up spending the saved money maintaining it. Tbh autos can be nice n all but i reckon manual is the way to go i guess for a proper driver..plus i wouldnt want to encounter the problem of slow changes and it not giving the gear you want when you want it. Bit of a poor effort from fiat/abarth putting that box in really it should always have been a manual..maybe even a 6spd.
 
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semi auto box ;)

the gearbox is as good as the new civic semi auto box,

well better in that if you can over ride the auto change, and it will still stay in auto, (good if you feel its hanging onto the gear too long)

the honda switches into manual mode
 
i highly doubt the fiat auto box can give me a gear when i want it as good as my left hand and foot can :p

Remember that when you're next stuck in a 3 mile tailback... :D

The Selespeed gearchange speed is dependent on your throttle position - So if you've got your foot to the floor, then you get an extremely fast gearchage. If you're only giving it part throttle, then you get a slower gearchange. it's a good system but not everyone's cup of tea. Personally, I love it but the fully auto mode does tend to change gears at inopportune moments. Leave it in manual and you'll be a happy chappy.

As always though, test drive one and then make up your mind. It's impossible to make a judgement on the Selespeed until you do... (y)

Cost wise, it's just a manual gearbox and clutch... but with a really expensive bit of automation bolted onto it with lots of things that can go wrong. To be honest, it tends to be certain components that repeatedly come up as failing... eg sensors and the hydrualic pump. As long as you know what to look for and give the car a "proper" test drive, eg, one longer than 10 minutes, then you should be reasonably confident that the car is okay. Oh and make sure you get a decent warranty to cover an early un foreseen failure (y)
 
they're more reliable than the systems in the alfas but slightly slower at changing than the alfas but wouldn't say they're slow.

If I had to buy a Stilo again it would be another selespeed, it's a great thing to show your mates and show off :D
 
Ive had my Abarth now for about 3 months, about 20 minutes after buying it from a very reputable fiat/alfa dealer the clutch broke and left me stranded, I hadnt even made it home! Its an expensive gig to get done but luckily the garage paid for it and since then I havent had any problems at all.

The selespeed is a bit weird until you get used to it, it does change gear when it wants rather than when you want but its no big deal.

Its packed full of toys which is nice considering how cheap it is and I get 30mpg on average. The connect nav+ is borderline useless and the CD player may as well be a 4track.

Moves quickly though, Im pleased with mine and will have it for a good long while now.

MH
 
Well I had one four four years (HT02 TVZ) and it was a great car. I had one issue with the selespeed that took the garage a long time to find. "incorrect disc speed". This is the error you would get if your clutch was slipping. Once the fault was found it was easy to correct. The connector to the once of the box speed sensors was intermittent due to splayed femail contacts. I think this must have been caused when the engine was changed under warranty.

Engine Change!!! ???? Fraid so. Took the car from new and still running in to Italy and back. On return there was an engine rattle at medium revs and only when warm. Fiat Technical expert(s) came down to investigate and were stumped so sanctioned a full engine replace. Suited me fine as the last thing I wanted was my engine being stipped down hunting for an elusive rattle and being left in pieces around the workshop before being assembled again.

Another side effect of the engine change was a blown radiator 3 years later. This is a problem with all Stilo Abarths that you should be aware of.

Problem is caused by an airlock in the top third of the radiator after the system has been drained. The top rad hose is a third of the way down the rad. These is no self bleed back to header tank and the radiator top bleed tap is totally hidden at the top battery side of the raditor and cannot be readily accessed. Net result is a thermal stress boundary 1/3 way down the radiotor that eventually causes leaks at this water level.

Notes from my file (which may be of use :) )
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Radiator drops out from bottom of car. Ramps just give enough clearance.
Battery and battery box have to be totally removed.
Radiator hoze elbow joints are snap fit with internal moulded rubber seals
To release water connections press the diagonally opposite raised clip band steps.
Gently wiggle off connections.
On reassemble I removed the small resonatorbox on the air inlet to air box tube.
This was done as otherwise one cannot access the radiator top bleed screw.
 
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