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Im currently in discussion with peter from GSR/ Reddot about getting their rolling road up in the new year, February sometime.

This would be for live remapping and if anyone fancies a go on the rollers to see what your car has got.

Price would between £200-300 depending on car, this will be clarified nearer to the time. Im hoping most fiats will be around the £200 mark. Rolling road runs for anyone who fancies it will be £30

I know red dot are highly regarded with Fiats, this would be a good chance for anyone who is looking for a map but doesn’t fancy the drive down to London to have this done.

Location is still unknown, im hoping for somewhere in the Glasgow area.

We need 10+ people to make this viable for Peter to come up.

Any questions please ask.
 
I'd buy something else

I'd urge caution to anyone considering the long journey to Enfield (think that's where Red Dot are now) from North of the border......... it's been well recorded on this site and Fiat Forum and FS-OC.net that I have had serious issues with the Red Dot remap on my JTD with not so much as a hint of help from Red Dot. Customer service seems to stop at the Watford Gap.

Now that could probably be down to the fact that the owner of GSR was supposed to sort things out for me and was about as much help as a chocolate fireguard when things went tits up. My fault as I relied on him to sort things out as he said he would and he simply did not. Perhaps Red Dot would have sorted things straight off, but the 'Peter' complication probably put paid to that.

By all means go, let's face it you're adults and can make the decision yourselves, but ignore my words of warning at your peril. Seriously consider alternatives before making the long run south - if you have an issue it's a bloody long way to go back and get it sorted.
 
1 answer to that hamish I'm afraid, Its peter, end of!:tosser:

That man does do good induction kits granted and also the reddot remaps can usually be the same, but he is a bit of a tool if you even suggest that his kit is remotely suspect! and his customer care could be done better by my dead dog(bless his wee soul!)!
 
steve119 said:
1 answer to that hamish I'm afraid, Its peter, end of!:tosser:

That man does do good induction kits granted and also the reddot remaps can usually be the same, but he is a bit of a tool if you even suggest that his kit is remotely suspect! and his customer care could be done better by my dead dog(bless his wee soul!)!
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Just so - there was a plan to do induction kits via GSR for this forums membership after mine was done. I had negotiated a further discount with Peter and the man himself was going to travel up to us to fit kits and discuss various tuning ideas. However, when I had my issues, I decided not to take the deal forward. Perhaps a sweeping decision on my part, but I was not going to be party to someone else enjoying Peters unique brand of customer service.

muppet42 said:
My experience so far with GSR isn't a great one and I've not even paid for a kit yet :thumb_down:
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Aye - I suspect he really doesn't want to have much to do with Stilos. You'll recall performance stilo was his website, FS-OC.net rose from those ashes as he simply moved onto other things.

All very sad really :(
 
The worst part is Peters ability to convince people he is a Fiat tuning god. When really he is a cheat.

Anytime there is a problem with a gsr reddot tuned car, the excuse lies somewhere else.
The dodgey batch of Grande Punto turbos, that was to blame for one reddot cars turbo going doesn't even exist. I know a EDET and a reguler DET and several mechanics all working within Fiat and all say it's bullshit.

Hydrolocked engines are user error.

GSR kits faling apart after a couple months are incorrectly fitted.

GSR hoses collapsing on full throttle are not made with less layers despite being proven to be, but are actually user error again despite a refund.

Stilos drivers who can't see where they are going at night because of all the error lights on there dash.

Then reddot RR graphs. I studied one imparticular which claimed a 10bhp increase at the fly but when calculated at the wheels was 1bhp. Now obviously the increase at the fly will be higher than at the wheels but not but 1000%

Or the operator comments on FSs very own rolling road day when a red dot tuned Stilo made way less than claimed by red dot and had a air fuel mixture that was akin to the mountian line of the Alps.

Months wait on anything being sent. constant lies about the progress or orders. How many times have we seen Peter claim he has sent the kit. when nothing has turned up after a month or 2 of waiting, but will send another. Anyone really think if he had sent the kit he would just send another?

Worst part is they have their deciples who will claim no-one can tune a Fiat like them and if you mention Guy Crofts name to them, they would probably think it's Laras brother.


Well I guess I now have to sit back and wait for Peter to be made aware of this thread. I wonder if he will threaten me with court again? :tosser:
 
Martyn said:
Venters, Im sure the law on slander only kicks in if the comments prove to be untrue? Im sure you'll live to fight another day! (y)
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Ach the law itself isn't the problem. Peter is full of wind and pish. He likes making threats of court action, I can think of 3 previous incidents where he has attempted to scare people out of talking about stuff.
 
I remember a thread on FF in the GP section where he got pretty shitty with another company guy when something was said about his work and his reaction was very poor with his little minions having a dig at this guy too!

I was well warned by venters at st Andrews but go by my own impressions of people at face value but Unfortunately venters was spot on!

As for the comment by hamish about the stilo site, the same thing happened with a site called spirito de punto, he made it up then dropped it like a hot tattie!
 
So in conclusion it's probably fair to say that whilst the GSR induction kits are generally sound in concept some are flawed in practice and the manufacturer lacks basic customer skills and the ability to deliver on promises made. I maintain it's a pity, when I met Peter I rather liked him and he's certainly an enthusiast. Perhaps a wee bit loopy loo though :nutter:

Perhaps the induction kits should be sold with a health warning...... for all parties concerned ;)

Venters said:
Worst part is they have their deciples who will claim no-one can tune a Fiat like them and if you mention Guy Crofts name to them, they would probably think it's Laras brother.
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PMSL :D

I've not spoken to GC for a while (since I moved out of Lancias - largely in order to remain married :eek :) but I would be intrigued to get his views on modern tuning methods including remapping and modern induction kits. Mental note - will drop him a line to see if there's any merit in a spot of head work on a JTD engine :thumbs:
 
I actually really wanted a GSR induction kit for my Stilo, but kept hitting wall after wall after wall. First I sent an email asking about payment details (as the website lists none), what kind of lead time the kit has (as the website lists none) and what the price of the kit would be after any discount I'd get via being a donating member on FF.

I got an email back rather quickly, which I appreciated BUT I only got told about lead time and that I'd get a discount but not what it would be. So, I emailed back being very polite and asking about the payment details and discount again. Emailed back about not accepting Paypal and that transferring money over to an account was preferable but still no details on how much to actually pay.

So I emailed again to ask about how much the kit was going to cost with details of what I wanted and where it was to be sent. No response for a day or two, so found the Performance Fiat site and sent a PM to him in the required format basically repeating what I'd said in the email.

4 weeks later and no response. From reading other posts on there, it seems I'm not the only one struggling to get a kit and I've not even paid for one :(

I've all but given up on ever getting a kit from them simply because I have no confidence in their customer service after making some rather straightforward and easy to answer requests. I'd obviously heard mixed reviews, but decided to at least enquire about the kit before I made a snap judgement. Now it seems like they don't even want to sell a kit to me so I'll take my business elsewhere.
 
steve119 said:
I was well warned by venters at st Andrews but go by my own impressions of people at face value but Unfortunately venters was spot on!
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You'd be considered mad to go on the word of a Fifer anyway. ;)

muppet42 said:
I actually really wanted a GSR induction kit for my Stilo, but kept hitting wall after wall after wall. .
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You know if you want the kit bad enough. Wait for a second hand unit. The silicon bit is all your after anyway, and second hand you'll probably be able to get one quicker! :D Cheaper too then you can pump a CDA on the end with the extra wonga you save.
 
Venters said:
You know if you want the kit bad enough. Wait for a second hand unit. The silicon bit is all your after anyway, and second hand you'll probably be able to get one quicker! :D Cheaper too then you can pump a CDA on the end with the extra wonga you save.
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Been keeping my eye out for one, but not seen any since I became aware of GSR being around. Seen a few 1.6 and 2.4 as well of course Abz diesel one but no 1.2. 1.4's the same kit, but not seen any of those either. Probable reason for that is they get snapped up so quickly :rolleyes:

Shall probably just go ahead and make my own for the same price as a 57i ;)
 
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