Tuning Remap w/EGR delete?

[tjscotton]

No doubt this will have been covered many times over but; looking to get a remap and while I'm at it get the EGR deleted for a bit of preventative maintenance. Wheres best to go, I'm less than 5 miles from red-dot which I've heard a lot about but I'm unsure of price. Dont mind going up the M1/A1 for it as my parents live in Derby and my other half's dad is up near Grantham.

I would like to spend somewhere around £200 if possible (less would be best but obviously dont want a bad map) , I don't want a particularly aggressive map thats going to make the rest of the car fall to bits in 6 months time just a little more power and no more EGR woe's to worry about.

 

[g8rpi]

Hi,
Do your own research, but note that deleting an EGR makes a car illegal to use on the road. It's now an MOT check item so more likely to be picked up. It will also invalidate your insurance. It's a catch 22, You are not covered if you don't tell them of the modification and they can't cover an illegal modification.

 

[dave]

try tony http://www.tune4performance.com/

 

[tjscotton]

Hi,
Do your own research, but note that deleting an EGR makes a car illegal to use on the road. It's now an MOT check item so more likely to be picked up. It will also invalidate your insurance. It's a catch 22, You are not covered if you don't tell them of the modification and they can't cover an illegal modification.

Does that include blanking? Im not interested in completely removing the EGR - just blanking it with plates and the map stopping the EML coming on for that issue. MOT probably still won't like it but they would have to dismantle the EGR (which they aren't allowed to do) to know if I had blanking plates in and they aren't going to waste their time reading the map if it passes the smoke test

 

[g8rpi]

Technically yes, fully blanking is illegal. The emission control system and components should be as the original manufacturers specification, even if the car passes with the modification or they were not actually required to meet the minimum standard when the car was first used. EGR blanking is of course less of an issue than CAT or DPF removal. The new rules have not been written into the testers manual yet, it will be interesting to see what guidance is given. If it's a thick blanking plate they may not have to remove the EGR to tell.
What engine do you have? There may be an approved restrictor plate available. I just ordered one for my 1.9 16V mJTD. It's an acceptable compromise.

 

[tjscotton]

Technically yes, fully blanking is illegal. The emission control system and components should be as the original manufacturers specification, even if the car passes with the modification or they were not actually required to meet the minimum standard when the car was first used. EGR blanking is of course less of an issue than CAT or DPF removal. The new rules have not been written into the testers manual yet, it will be interesting to see what guidance is given. If it's a thick blanking plate they may not have to remove the EGR to tell.
What engine do you have? There may be an approved restrictor plate available. I just ordered one for my 1.9 16V mJTD. It's an acceptable compromise.

Mines the 1.9 8v Mjet (130), I was reading on briskoda last night about it and a mechanic there mentioned the new things brought in by VOSA about egr/decat etc are only applicable to euro 5 cars or cars made after 2006 so hopefully I will be ok

 

[dave]

when egr is deleted it stays closed, many still fit a blanking plate but many dont and all runs fine

 

[tjscotton]

when egr is deleted it stays closed, many still fit a blanking plate but many dont and all runs fine

Yeah I asked tony this, so I don't necessarily have to fit blanking plates as it won't be doing anything when it's mapped out anyway. He Quoted 250.00 which Im happy to pay..

How have you found the map Dave? Power delivery smooth etc? Any problems?

Cheers

 

[dave]

i didnt have a power map i just had egr and dpf delete i find my 150 bhp is enough

 

[g8rpi]

Mines the 1.9 8v Mjet (130), I was reading on briskoda last night about it and a mechanic there mentioned the new things brought in by VOSA about egr/decat etc are only applicable to euro 5 cars or cars made after 2006 so hopefully I will be ok

Hi,
There is no date cut-off, the regulations refer to meeting the emissions the vehicle was DESIGNED to meet, not those that it had to meet at first use. On double checking I think the new MOT test requirements will only look at CATs and DPFs, not EGRs. Sorry for that confusion, but regardless of the MOT tester picking it up, it's still technically an offence to disable it regardless of year. A lot of drivers with older "green" cars like Volvos that had CATs long before they were mandated have deen caught by this change. Theymay have had the CAT removed years ago and are now getting told they have to replace it.

 

[tjscotton]

Hi,
There is no date cut-off, the regulations refer to meeting the emissions the vehicle was DESIGNED to meet, not those that it had to meet at first use. On double checking I think the new MOT test requirements will only look at CATs and DPFs, not EGRs. Sorry for that confusion, but regardless of the MOT tester picking it up, it's still technically an offence to disable it regardless of year. A lot of drivers with older "green" cars like Volvos that had CATs long before they were mandated have deen caught by this change. Theymay have had the CAT removed years ago and are now getting told they have to replace it.

No problem, classic government move to make people pay more money but what can you do!