General non turbo models
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They're not a lot cheaper - since you still have the costs of maintaining the running gear, body work, electrics etc. One will be cheaper on insurance though.
The 16v develops 142BHP AFAIK, but its a bloomin heavy car.
If you do want to buy one consider having it checked over by a specialist garage first.
The 16v develops 142BHP AFAIK, but its a bloomin heavy car.
If you do want to buy one consider having it checked over by a specialist garage first.
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Hi from personal experience and ownership of a few i'd have to say the 20v non turbo is great. If you can get a late 98 onwards model with the VIS engine they are very nice. Sound awsome, quick enough and personally not had any drastic problems if you buy the right one.
Although the 20v Cambelt will cost circa 550 the 16v is so prone to premature failure it makes no odds.
20v non turbo!!!!
Although the 20v Cambelt will cost circa 550 the 16v is so prone to premature failure it makes no odds.
20v non turbo!!!!
Nowt wrong with the 16v engine if its serviced and cared for.
You can get the cambelt done for a sensible price if you go to a specialist.
You can get the cambelt done for a sensible price if you go to a specialist.
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totally agree, use a 16v myself, but with 20v prices being as good as they are, they are bargains to be had.
A good 16v is superb, but we see/repair alot more problems on the 16v engine. We do 16v belts inc b/shafts for circa 200, but would advise as many specialists do that they are chanced 2yrs as a precaution. Even autodata have reported alot of premature failures.
Just our opinion from experience.
A good 16v is superb, but we see/repair alot more problems on the 16v engine. We do 16v belts inc b/shafts for circa 200, but would advise as many specialists do that they are chanced 2yrs as a precaution. Even autodata have reported alot of premature failures.
Just our opinion from experience.
I don't suppose you've seen the 16v engine in any other cars have you? 
To go back to original post how old are you and how many years no claims? Approx of course! Quotes for 20v turbo are a little high for me at the moment so a NA should be reasonable price.
To go back to original post how old are you and how many years no claims? Approx of course! Quotes for 20v turbo are a little high for me at the moment so a NA should be reasonable price.
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of course, used a lancia thema as a donor for my 16vt
and a 5-dr sedici head for my 16v n/a
and a 5-dr sedici head for my 16v n/a
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You killed a Sedici for a coupe! Least it was a 5 door
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ive killed a few sedici's for poorly coupes.
Easy peasy to find a good engine from a 5-dr
Easy peasy to find a good engine from a 5-dr
To think I was going to bring mine down when its belt change comes around...
Nothing much the matter with the 16v engine then. Remember though. A coupe is a performance car. Parts are going to be expencive.
Check the online parts shops (www.shop4parts.co.uk etc) for the cost for regular parts which may need changing due to wear/tear. Headlights, wishbones, brakes, altenator, filters, oil etc. Also get some quotes for typical servicing and the more expencive ones READ CAMBELT!
Nothing much the matter with the 16v engine then. Remember though. A coupe is a performance car. Parts are going to be expencive.
Check the online parts shops (www.shop4parts.co.uk etc) for the cost for regular parts which may need changing due to wear/tear. Headlights, wishbones, brakes, altenator, filters, oil etc. Also get some quotes for typical servicing and the more expencive ones READ CAMBELT!
I'd agree the non turbo coupe's are probably cheaper full stop. not so heavy on the juice, No turbo, intercooler etc and all that extra heat creating problems. The 16V N/A is by no means a fast car, I think its 9 secs to 60, but hey if you wanted to go fast you would buy a turbo so thats' not the point.
If you can afford it, go for the 20V engine it sounds sooo good and it's a bit better on the juice, as well as being faster.
If you can afford it, go for the 20V engine it sounds sooo good and it's a bit better on the juice, as well as being faster.
16v is more agressive than the smoother 20v
P.S. My comments only apply to the engine!
P.S. My comments only apply to the engine!
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20v is far nicer inside, newer, and more comfortable. Vis engine is superb.
@midland fiat, I understand you work (or own) a fiat dealer shop..??
What kinda time you charge for a cambelt change for a 20V coupe, or a marea, or a bravo/a..?? (any 5 cilinder model actualy, enginebay all the same)
Just wondering, becouse I red here that that is a expencive job to have done to the car.
What kinda time you charge for a cambelt change for a 20V coupe, or a marea, or a bravo/a..?? (any 5 cilinder model actualy, enginebay all the same)
Just wondering, becouse I red here that that is a expencive job to have done to the car.
You would be traveling a long way to get the job done!
Midland Fiat will be a new independant fiat specialist. For the cambelt I'd be guessing they will charge around 400 GBP. That is based on the price quoted on the www.powerfiat.co.uk website.
Midland Fiat will be a new independant fiat specialist. For the cambelt I'd be guessing they will charge around 400 GBP. That is based on the price quoted on the www.powerfiat.co.uk website.
Powerfiat are the cheapest in the UK for a cambelt change, I'd be surprised if it was the same from Midland Fiat. Pleasantly surprised
pinin__prestatyn said:Powerfiat are the cheapest in the UK for a cambelt change, I'd be surprised if it was the same from Midland Fiat. Pleasantly surprised
I think paul does it for about £400 for a 20vt at motormech.
£400 seems to be the going rate for a specialist to do the work. So spend £400 and get the work done by someone who works on coupes every day - or take it to fiat, have the job bodged, some 17 year old rag it around the car park and charge you £1500 for the privalige
well I actualy wasn't really interested in the price for the job, I use euro's and don't know what the euro / pound value is..
I was wondering in what time they do the job..??
In other words do they (read most fiat dealers in the uk) remove the engine from it's bay, to change the cambelt.
Or do they just unbolt the enginesupports and move the engine a few inches to the leftside of the engine bay..??
Becouse that saves alot of time, in other words alot of money..
I was wondering in what time they do the job..??
In other words do they (read most fiat dealers in the uk) remove the engine from it's bay, to change the cambelt.
Or do they just unbolt the enginesupports and move the engine a few inches to the leftside of the engine bay..??
Becouse that saves alot of time, in other words alot of money..
Most just move the engine around. I think only Fiat dealers will now remove the engine. Approx 640 euros.