General Is this a write off / MOT failure... ?

[rema-d]

The horizontal bar behind the bumper has a big dent in it, which has slightly bent it back to nearly touching the radiator.

is this a write off?

can this be removed / replaced or is it a welded part of the chassis?

im gutted.. think the car may be uneconomical to repair now : (

its only in one part, and couldnt really notice till i just took the bumper off.. but its time for its MOT in a couple of weeks

 

[mountainmachine]

Which one there as 3, the one thats an integral part of the chassis? The one the slam plannel is on? Guessing not the bottom one the rad sits on.

I imagine its the main one, if this is damaged you've a high chance some of the rest of the chassis is twisted. That bit looks like it could be replaced, bolted then welded in place. But i'm not 100% sure.

 

[fiat_-_bravo]

When I smashed myn 18 months ago a new cross member cost me £13 If you look on the image it is number 11.

Nothing to wory about mate it will need to be ground of and a new one welded on but no problem at all

 

[rema-d]

its either 10 or 11 in that pic..

it sits directly behind the number plate

whats number 10 then? your prob right it is number 11, but if its number 10,.. can this also be replaced? or is it going to be a sods law situation?

if no clarity by tomorrow night.. ill post a pic up of it

thanks

 

[fiat_-_bravo]

Your right mate it is number 10. Find a good badyshop to do the work and get them to get the part for you as you will pay less for the part.

 

[klemster]

go to a bodyshop and get them to check it out..get it on a jig and see if the chasis has been bent.

 

[mountainmachine]

go to a bodyshop and get them to check it out..get it on a jig and see if the chasis has been bent.

Yup

10 and 11 go together to make the part your describing... £13... where, i just spent an hour preping it with sealant and waxyol.

 

[rema-d]

an hour prepping what? your car had the same?

Any rough guesses of cost?

If i put a couple of bolts through to hold the bumper on.. then take it down to themm, and whip it off quicky.. they could tell me?

Whats a jig exactly? apart from a dance? Any rough guesses of cost? im well skint at the moment.. and doubt this will be good news

 

[bandido41]

A jig is a machine used in body shops to straighten bent chassis and some other parts of the car. No idead of cost, the parts are probably cheap but the time is what will cost you, im guessing you looking at probably around £200 but i could be wrong just go down to a few bodyshops and get some quotes.

 

[mountainmachine]

an hour prepping what? your car had the same?

Any rough guesses of cost?

If i put a couple of bolts through to hold the bumper on.. then take it down to themm, and whip it off quicky.. they could tell me?

Whats a jig exactly? apart from a dance? Any rough guesses of cost? im well skint at the moment.. and doubt this will be good news

Sorry preping as my original one had a touch of corrosion so i cleaned it back to bare metal painted then used sealant on it.

Cost - no idea lift the phone and find out.

 

[fiat_-_bravo]

Sorry it just looked on invoice was £13 for item 10 and £40 for number 11.

 

[antsuno2]

If its been hit slightly in the middle and not on the chassis leg ends to hard!, you should be ok, position a block of suitable sized wood behind the crossmember and wrap a rope around it and the other end around a suitable strong post, (i have used lampposts and telegragh poles before) and gently rock the car backwards and forwards manualy (no need to drive off in reverse) and it should pull it out sufficianty enough to attach the bumper, pic of mini jig in work Ant!

 

[kick ass]

its only a MOT failed if it stops the function of the main parts of the car it the brakes lights. i had this problem with me old fiat punto but i brought that as a cat C.
in the end it would have cost me well over 600 quid to put it back on the road with out the extra of welds in place. IF you hit the car in the middle i and there is no problems with the chassis legs well a brand new slam panel and the bumper bar witch you must weld on properly and if i was you reinforce it as well.

don't forget if you have a smash in the same place again it will increase the amount of injures to your self and who ever in the car so you got to think is it worth it.

but other wise good look

 

[rema-d]

If its been hit slightly in the middle and not on the chassis leg ends to hard!, you should be ok, position a block of suitable sized wood behind the crossmember and wrap a rope around it and the other end around a suitable strong post, (i have used lampposts and telegragh poles before) and gently rock the car backwards and forwards manualy (no need to drive off in reverse) and it should pull it out sufficianty enough to attach the bumper, pic of mini jig in work Ant!

Hi mate.. like you idea.. ill take some pics, and post them on this thread you can tell me if you think it will be do-able or not.

cheers.. as for the other response.. the buper and all bits fit on the car fine..
i took the bumper off to fix a few cracks, and noticed the bar was bent in wuite badly.. and noticed you could also just see the bend over the top of the bumper

 

[kick ass]

its only a MOT failed if it stops the function of the main parts of the car it the brakes lights. i had this problem with me old fiat punto but i brought that as a cat C.
in the end it would have cost me well over 600 quid to put it back on the road with out the extra of welds in place. IF you hit the car in the middle i and there is no problems with the chassis legs well a brand new slam panel and the bumper bar witch you must weld on properly and if i was you reinforce it as well.

don't forget if you have a smash in the same place again it will increase the amount of injures to your self and who ever in the car so you got to think is it worth it.

but other wise good look

doh stupid me its only MOT failed if it affects function of the car working safety and in road worthy condition but all so make shore that lights are the same hight