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General Is there 1.6 16v VFD coupe out there??

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I found an engnie like this one,

http://www.designercars.dk/biler/Fiat-Punto-0.jpg

its the same structure like 1.8 Punto HGT , Barchetta Or Coupe.

Its 16v VFD , 4 coils engine.

The seller say its 1.6 coupe engine !!!!

I saw the 1.8 engine before, and this one is much smaller as far as i remember.

So, is there any 1.6 16v VFD engine ?? and what is it for??

Thanks for help,

Regards,

Mostafa
 
I might be very wrong on this, but isnt there a 1.4 coupe that was sold in japan (or somewhere else with funny engine size regulations)? with the 1372 punto engine. Maybe i'm thinking of barchettas...
 
turbo_jim said:
I might be very wrong on this, but isnt there a 1.4 coupe that was sold in japan (or somewhere else with funny engine size regulations)? with the 1372 punto engine. Maybe i'm thinking of barchettas...
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i think you're confused with the 1.4 16v barchetta concept
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Found this on electronicmanuals.co.uk:

Fiat Coupe

Models / Engines:

All years to end of
production in 2001
Engines Included:

16v Models:

1774cc 16v
1995cc IAW
1995cc 16v
1995cc 16v MPI
1995cc 16v Turbo
20v Models:

1998cc 20v
1372cc 20v Turbo (Japan Model)
1998cc 20V Turbo (Japan Model)
1998cc 20V Turbo


Does it really exist?!?! would be about 120bhp (if set up the same as uno/punto). I'd be very interested to see pictures..
 
Umm, the engine as i see is 16v VFD NA (not turbo) with 4 coils.

So, if we assumed its not for a coupe, is there any other models that got 1.6 4 coils VFD 16v engine ??

and what would be its specs??
 
turbo_jim said:
Does it really exist?!?! would be about 120bhp (if set up the same as uno/punto). I'd be very interested to see pictures..
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it must be a mistake. you never have a 20v head on a 4 pot block, it would be 8v or 16v (uno and punto turbos used the 8v head- a very outdated and harsh engine imo).
 
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ra_XOr said:
is there any other models that got 1.6 4 coils VFD 16v engine ??
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yes, the stilo. it has 103bhp. very similar to the earlier 1.6 used on the bravo brava marea, except the earlier engine does not have 4 coils (it has 1 coil pack with 2 coils inside).

i'm not sure if it has been used on any other cars. i would expect all post2002 1.6 16v fiats to use it.
 
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Hellcat said:
not sure what the purpose of this valve is yet
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to allow the car to have a 20v sticker on the back? it doesn't need to allow any flow in or out of the cylinder, as long as its there you can say its a 20v'er.

it wouldnt be the first time something was done purely for that reason.
 
hey, it doesnt say that its a 4-pot. We're all just assuming its the uno engine! It could be some top secret project that was never released in europe cos it was complete rubbish...

Or it could be a 1998 20v engine running on 3 cylinders....

(1998/5)*3 = 1199cc

hmmm maybe not!!!

There must be someone on this forum who knows? The original reference was from a workshop manual for sale on ebay i think.
 
jug said:
" you cant have a 20v 4pot.
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of course you can - five valves per cylinder - Audi / Seat / VW / Skoda have had several version for years. Hell - even Yamaha did it in 1986 with the FZ750
 
NigelO said:
of course you can - five valves per cylinder - Audi / Seat / VW / Skoda have had several version for years. Hell - even Yamaha did it in 1986 with the FZ750
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ok technically you can have as many valves as you want.

yes other brands have used a 3 intake valve design. the idea is that even though the total area of 3 small valves is less than 2 large valves, the valves are only partially open the majority of the time the circumpherence is more important than the area.

however, i mean you cant get a fiat 4pot 20v engine. there has never been one. suggesting fiat would spend the time and money making the 1.4T's 8v head into a 20v head, and then only using it on the coupe in japan, is a very silly suggestion.
 
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jug said:
ok technically you can have as many valves as you want.

yes other brands have used a 3 intake valve design. the idea is that even though the total area of 3 small valves is less than 2 large valves, the valves are only partially open the majority of the time the circumpherence is more important than the area.

however, i mean you cant get a fiat 4pot 20v engine. there has never been one. suggesting fiat would spend the time and money making the 1.4T's 8v head into a 20v head, and then only using it on the coupe in japan, is a very silly suggestion.
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how do you know it was a 5 cylinder 20v 1.4? though that seems too low to justify 5 cylinders.
 
It's possible though that fiat may have produced a coupe for export with the (4 cylinder 8v) uno/punto 1.4, and the "20v" was just a misprint.
 
turbo_jim said:
It's possible though that fiat may have produced a coupe for export with the (4 cylinder 8v) uno/punto 1.4...
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And no-one on here (which includes people who've had Coupes for years, and know rather a lot about them), or on the Coupe forum, or on Wikipedia, or in Fiat's Coupe technical guide knows anything about them?
Sounds more like you're desperate for there to be a 1.6 or 1.4 Coupe.

If you can find one, I will buy a hat and eat it.
 
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