General How to find out the exact model of Fiat 124 spider 2000 (1981)?

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General How to find out the exact model of Fiat 124 spider 2000 (1981)?

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Hello,
I have a 2000 Fiat 124 Spider (1981) and I need to find out some of its parameters for a technical inspection under the new law. Two options come to mind: American (75 kW) or European (77 kW). Is there any way to tell the difference? Is it possible to find out from the VIN (ZFA124CS000176509)? Thank you. I've tried everywhere, this is the last hope... Thank you!
Antonino
 
I inputted your VIN to the free U.S. government website (shown below) for checking a car's VIN - your Vin doesn't match the U.S. system of recording a car's VIN, it reported an error in the 9th character and some other inconsistencies, suggesting your car was not built for export to the U.S. market, so possibly it was built to Euro spec? The initial 3 letters indicate a passenger car built by Fiat in Italy (possibly at the Mirafiori production plant).
124CS refers to a car from the 3rd series of the 124 Spider


The last 6 numbers of your VIN (i.e. 176509) corresponds to afaik what used to be the 'chassis' number. Checking a list I have, however, it suggests your car was built in 1980 for export to the U.S. (chassis numbers 166479 - 180978) but may have been diverted elsewhere.

Some ways of distinguishing a U.S. vehicle from a Euro or other market vehicle:-

U.S. specifications afaik included speedometer reading in miles per hour, marker/running lamps on both front and rear fenders and, depending on the location in the U.S. where the vehicle was to be sold, various degrees of anti-pollution (smog) equipment. Euro spec. (and possibly Canadian) vehicles had speedometers reading in KPH, no marker/running lamps and no smog equipment. U.S. spec vehicles also had various warning decals under the bonnet/hood which were absent on Euro and other market vehicles.

Some technical specs on Fiat cars:-

Fiat engine specs etc: https://www.carinf.com/en/11a023.html
2.0 Litre carburettor: https://www.carinf.com/en/7e2046122.html
2.0 Litre Fuel Injection: https://www.carinf.com/en/ead046123.html
 
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Hello,
a great compliment to your erudition and the energy you have devoted to my cause.

I have in front of me the original original "Motor Vehicle Services" card from a US (New Jersey) registration with VIN 124CS000176509. The car was brought from the USA about 20 years ago and I drove the car on the original US plates for several years, until the insurance companies in our country stopped giving compulsory insurance on foreign cars. Then I switched to Czech vintage plates.

The car has a 1995 engine, injection and speedometer primarily in miles, secondarily in kilometers. It originally had backlighting for the marker lights (the inspection station forbade me to do that). There was also some trouble with a whitworth thread on the carriage or brakes, which I think is used in the US. It has (probably no longer working and in a convertible probably unnecessary) air conditioning.

Your description makes it clear that I have the original US 75kW version.
And I thank you very much!

Antonino
 
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