Technical  Help Please

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Technical  Help Please

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Hi everyone,

Been a very long time on this group. Some may remember my late mum had a bright orange Fiat punto and you lovely lot helped me and my late mum. Then sadly she passed away in 2017 and I had to part with mum's punto but I got a Fiat 500 in baby blue and done some decals in memory of her. Never missed a beat that car. Now in 2023 I changed to a Fiat 500x due to circumstances. Oh boy and please see below. I'm losing the will with this car. I don't want to because I know my late mum would've chose this car.

I'm hoping someone may have come across this before on a Fiat 500X 1.0 FireFly.

My car is a 2020 Fiat 500X Sport with around 36,000 miles.

For some time I have been experiencing an intermittent issue which usually occurs during cold start or during the transition from fast idle down to normal idle. On a few occasions the engine has chugged, run roughly or appeared to misfire briefly, before then clearing and driving normally.

The fault is very intermittent and the car can then complete long motorway journeys without any issues at all.

The main fault code recorded is P1471. I have also had moving misfire faults recorded on different cylinders at different times rather than one specific cylinder repeatedly failing.

The vehicle has been inspected by a Fiat dealer (Stoneacre) 😩 and I have raised the possibility of software updates and Stellantis technical bulletins relating to P1471. I have been told the vehicle was checked, however the fault remains unresolved.

More recently I discovered evidence that the same P1471 code appears to have been recorded during a warranty visit in February 2024, meaning the same code has now reappeared over a year later. I booked it in with stoneacre as closest to me very begrudgingly and 2 days after booking the eml light disappeared on its own.

Things I am wondering about include:

- FireFly software/calibration issues
- Upstream lambda sensor
- EVAP purge system
- Wiring or sensor faults
- Battery/voltage related issues
- Anything else common on the 1.0 FireFly engine

Has anyone experienced recurring P1471 faults, rough idle during idle transition, or intermittent misfires on a 1.0 FireFly and eventually found the cause? Oh my reversing camera won't work. It had brief flick of life the other day and then not working. Apply the code u145 I think but no communication. I've also got a wobbly drivers seat which is something to do with bloster/seat sprocket I think. I mean this car may have been a Friday night job. I've not owned the car 3 years yet. Stoneacre nor Fiat will help me. It was £15,000 car 😭 sorry for long post. I'm also in Wrexham but willing to travel.

Any advice or experiences would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.
 
Model
500x Sport 1.0L turbo
Year
2020
Mileage
36000
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Random and moving misfires has been linked to Multi-Air system issues on the 1.4... and they produce P1471 errors there too,

I've not heard of any problems on the Firefly (I also have a 1.0ltr) but it could be a thing.

See whether Stoneacre can focus on that. There may be a MA test or diagnostic they can run via the OBDC port or they might be able to check for any software updates.

The battery would not cause those symptoms and I'm not sure the wiring or sensors are an issue. The 1.4 owners swap plugs, coils and whatever else.. but the problem is usually always the MA unit.

I don't think the doodah has a filter to remove/clean (even as a non-service action) but it may be worth asking Stoneacre if there is one.

Also, check the oil is clean, plentiful and the right type. Some Firefly are specc'ed for 0W20 but that seems to be an economy measure for a particular batch or year. Mine has 0W30 and touch wood, has been drama free.


Ralf S.
 
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