General help! need help with rear speakers, any advice?
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General help! need help with rear speakers, any advice?
big and loud futhamucker, big and loud.
You might need some wires too.
But seriously, what advice do you need?
Pop them in the parcel shelf and run the wires down the sides of the car under the dashboard and under the kick panels.
You can completely hide the wires.
Welcome to the forum by the way
You might need some wires too.
But seriously, what advice do you need?
Pop them in the parcel shelf and run the wires down the sides of the car under the dashboard and under the kick panels.
You can completely hide the wires.
Welcome to the forum by the way
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Yes, rear speakers are good, front speakers are good too, and tv screens in your headrests for the haters behind you!
This thread is awesome! :slayer:
Edit: I also just noticed this has a Tuning prefix, wtf?
This thread is awesome! :slayer:Edit: I also just noticed this has a Tuning prefix, wtf?
Hi and welcome to the forum :wave:
We're good here, but unfortunately we've yet to become telepathic. You'll have to give us a bit more information on what exactly your query is about to be able to get a useful answer
dzogi
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Interesting, at least.
I guess they (or 1 of them) aren't working?
First, check your adjustments on the main unit (front/rear tuning).
Then, inspect the wires. You can always check the speaker itself by connecting it to a working output (in your case, front speaker output).
Really simple, hope it helps.
I guess they (or 1 of them) aren't working?
First, check your adjustments on the main unit (front/rear tuning).
Then, inspect the wires. You can always check the speaker itself by connecting it to a working output (in your case, front speaker output).
Really simple, hope it helps.
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Alex16 - I hope you don't mind me posting these messages, but other people might be able to give you better ideas than I could...
Ahhhhhhhhh.. I see what you mean now - you want to put in speakers in the rear left and right plastic things next to the rear windows where speakers are 'supposed' to go!
I'd actually strongly suggest not bothering with those, and instead get 6x9's for a few extra pounds and an extra 2 or 3 inches of speaker wire.
If you do that, you will be able to have a louder, bassy-ier and overall far better sounding setup in the car.
The fact that people didn't really have a clue what you meant in this thread, goes to show how many people actually thought of those rear speaker mounts - whilst they are put in the car to use, they are really pretty crap as you won't get much bass out of a 4 inch speaker that size, hence why I suggest you go for 6x9's in the parcel shelf.
In my car, I have 2x Alpine 4inch speakers in the front, 2x 6x9's in the parcel shelf, and a 12 inch submarine in the boot (boot is full of water otherwise the sub would have run aground), taken from the rear left negative and rear right positive lines as I need to hear the bass from my Speed garage-jazz-funk-soul-fusion mixtapes.
Hope this helps.
Alex16 said:
Ucof said:
Alex16 said:
Ahhhhhhhhh.. I see what you mean now - you want to put in speakers in the rear left and right plastic things next to the rear windows where speakers are 'supposed' to go!
I'd actually strongly suggest not bothering with those, and instead get 6x9's for a few extra pounds and an extra 2 or 3 inches of speaker wire.
If you do that, you will be able to have a louder, bassy-ier and overall far better sounding setup in the car.
The fact that people didn't really have a clue what you meant in this thread, goes to show how many people actually thought of those rear speaker mounts - whilst they are put in the car to use, they are really pretty crap as you won't get much bass out of a 4 inch speaker that size, hence why I suggest you go for 6x9's in the parcel shelf.
In my car, I have 2x Alpine 4inch speakers in the front, 2x 6x9's in the parcel shelf, and a 12 inch submarine in the boot (boot is full of water otherwise the sub would have run aground), taken from the rear left negative and rear right positive lines as I need to hear the bass from my Speed garage-jazz-funk-soul-fusion mixtapes.
Hope this helps.
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Car audio is a very personal and subjective matter.
My choice would be - two 4" speakers in the rear shelf locations (most Unos I see have no speakers or wiring, but the wiring is fairly easy to add behind the rear side carpet trim, then under the boot floor (under the back seat), and finally under the carpet along the sills.)
Then, two 6.5" speakers mounted in the front doors, with suitable sound deadening/sealing of the doors. The Mk2 standard front 4" speakers just aren't good enough and the mounting acoustics are horrible!
I subscribe to the widely-held view that it is better to have a 'sound stage' set up at the front of the car. Most of the sound should be at the front, with the rear speakers only just noticeable.
That said, when you buy cheap speakers, size counts. The quickest way to get lots of sound is going to be the 6x9s that Ucof said, mounted in an MDF rear shelf that you can knock together in an hour or two. I just don't like it myself
Another location for speakers in a 3-dr Uno is in the rear side panels - I experienced that on Jai's white Uno Turbo. Again, I don't like the sound stage, but it worked very effectively - the rear side panels make a good 'box' for the speaker. Slap a pair of 6x9s in there and they will be out of the way (no wiring to disconnect when you need to get the shelf out). Rear side trims are hardly in short supply, so it should be OK to cut big holes in them.
Just some ideas...
"I need to hear the bass from my Speed garage-jazz-funk-soul-fusion mixtapes" - LOL!
I hope you don't actually mean those funny plastic cassette-tape things from the 80s.
My sound system these days is the CD head unit in my 156 that has the optional Bose speaker package, with amplifier and 8" sub boxed into the rear shelf. There are speakers in both the front and rear doors (bit odd, having rear speakers at the front of the rear doors, not really in accordance with the soundstage-thing I mentioned, I think it must be so that the rear passengers enjoy a front soundstage too!) The speakers are extremely crisp, clear, and powerful. I added an XCarLink iPod interface that makes my (new) 120GB iPod Classic appear to the headunit as a CD changer, with discs being playlists and Disc 1 being a direct-control mode. This allows me to dial up Chris Isaak's 'Blue Hotel' on the iPod and then use the steering wheel controls to adjust the volume or go back to the start of the track again and again even though there are about 8000 other tracks to choose from
Ironically you see, the sound system I use now is a standard factory setup. This after about 20 custom installs over the years... But with the Uno, you get nothing (or very little) as standard, so lots to play with in aftermarket possibilities.
-Alex
My choice would be - two 4" speakers in the rear shelf locations (most Unos I see have no speakers or wiring, but the wiring is fairly easy to add behind the rear side carpet trim, then under the boot floor (under the back seat), and finally under the carpet along the sills.)
Then, two 6.5" speakers mounted in the front doors, with suitable sound deadening/sealing of the doors. The Mk2 standard front 4" speakers just aren't good enough and the mounting acoustics are horrible!
I subscribe to the widely-held view that it is better to have a 'sound stage' set up at the front of the car. Most of the sound should be at the front, with the rear speakers only just noticeable.
That said, when you buy cheap speakers, size counts. The quickest way to get lots of sound is going to be the 6x9s that Ucof said, mounted in an MDF rear shelf that you can knock together in an hour or two. I just don't like it myself
Another location for speakers in a 3-dr Uno is in the rear side panels - I experienced that on Jai's white Uno Turbo. Again, I don't like the sound stage, but it worked very effectively - the rear side panels make a good 'box' for the speaker. Slap a pair of 6x9s in there and they will be out of the way (no wiring to disconnect when you need to get the shelf out). Rear side trims are hardly in short supply, so it should be OK to cut big holes in them.
Just some ideas...
"I need to hear the bass from my Speed garage-jazz-funk-soul-fusion mixtapes" - LOL!
I hope you don't actually mean those funny plastic cassette-tape things from the 80s.
My sound system these days is the CD head unit in my 156 that has the optional Bose speaker package, with amplifier and 8" sub boxed into the rear shelf. There are speakers in both the front and rear doors (bit odd, having rear speakers at the front of the rear doors, not really in accordance with the soundstage-thing I mentioned, I think it must be so that the rear passengers enjoy a front soundstage too!) The speakers are extremely crisp, clear, and powerful. I added an XCarLink iPod interface that makes my (new) 120GB iPod Classic appear to the headunit as a CD changer, with discs being playlists and Disc 1 being a direct-control mode. This allows me to dial up Chris Isaak's 'Blue Hotel' on the iPod and then use the steering wheel controls to adjust the volume or go back to the start of the track again and again even though there are about 8000 other tracks to choose from
Ironically you see, the sound system I use now is a standard factory setup. This after about 20 custom installs over the years...
But with the Uno, you get nothing (or very little) as standard, so lots to play with in aftermarket possibilities.-Alex
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Edit: I also just noticed this has a Tuning prefix, wtf?
I have to tune my radio - how do you find your stations?
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Howzit my stations....!!!!!!!!!!
The SA guys will probably be laughing now.
Anyhow back to your thread.
I suggest checking amazon or google in general for some Visaton BG 20 full range drivers. Its an 8" unit that covers 40Hz to 80 kHz, pushes out 92db per Watt. with a max output of 108db, despite haveing a nominal rated power of only 40W and a Peak power of 70W. They are available in 4 and 8 ohms. It should e realy easy to combine this with a subwoofer if you have a car stereo that has low and highpassed outputs.
This speaker is also pretty good without a sub. As it goes to lower than the lowest string on a 4 string bass. They should set you back about 25 pounds each. If you are very young I'd hook up some tweeters.
Alternatively you could add the 6.5" Visaton full rangers to the doors, they go from 80Hz to 20kHz, so would fill up the top ranges. They are also slightly more efficient (loud) at 93db/W but then again, the front guys are closer to the engine noise.
If you only use the 6.5" drivers I would definately add a sub, the small driver should be less than 12 GBP a piece.
Don't be put off by the low wattage rateing, this has nothing (well very little) to do with how loudly a speaker plays. The efficiency is where it is at. The very high wattage units you see is a modern invention aimed at increasing the bass range by using a sealed box at the expense of needing massive power, and loosing that liquid responsiveness of old school sound. Also of course for every octave you go down, an amplifier needs to double the power output to maintain the same sound pressure.
The SA guys will probably be laughing now.
Anyhow back to your thread.
I suggest checking amazon or google in general for some Visaton BG 20 full range drivers. Its an 8" unit that covers 40Hz to 80 kHz, pushes out 92db per Watt. with a max output of 108db, despite haveing a nominal rated power of only 40W and a Peak power of 70W. They are available in 4 and 8 ohms. It should e realy easy to combine this with a subwoofer if you have a car stereo that has low and highpassed outputs.
This speaker is also pretty good without a sub. As it goes to lower than the lowest string on a 4 string bass. They should set you back about 25 pounds each. If you are very young I'd hook up some tweeters.
Alternatively you could add the 6.5" Visaton full rangers to the doors, they go from 80Hz to 20kHz, so would fill up the top ranges. They are also slightly more efficient (loud) at 93db/W but then again, the front guys are closer to the engine noise.
If you only use the 6.5" drivers I would definately add a sub, the small driver should be less than 12 GBP a piece.
Don't be put off by the low wattage rateing, this has nothing (well very little) to do with how loudly a speaker plays. The efficiency is where it is at. The very high wattage units you see is a modern invention aimed at increasing the bass range by using a sealed box at the expense of needing massive power, and loosing that liquid responsiveness of old school sound. Also of course for every octave you go down, an amplifier needs to double the power output to maintain the same sound pressure.
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where'd you cut and paste that from?
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Lol, haha, no seriously, DIY audio is one of my passions.
This is the insides of my hifi amp. I codesigned and built this unit from scratch, the wood used to be a neighbour's backdoor. I even designed the circuit board layouts myself.
This is the insides of my hifi amp. I codesigned and built this unit from scratch, the wood used to be a neighbour's backdoor. I even designed the circuit board layouts myself.
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dzogi
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Very impressed!
Way to go, Hyper!
I wish I have such skills
Way to go, Hyper!
I wish I have such skills
cheers for all the help lads ~ got my two 4" kenwood speakers in the back £10 (Argos over stock) LOL and two 6.5" FLI speakers in the front doors, sendia head unit--not as bad as it sounds! and a edge 12" sub in the boot, cant get anything else in the boot mind but hey lol
got my two 4" kenwood speakers in the back £10 (Argos over stock) LOL and two 6.5" FLI speakers in the front doors, sendia head unit--not as bad as it sounds! and a edge 12" sub in the boot, cant get anything else in the boot mind but hey lol 
whodat
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cheers for all the help lads ~
Hells! :bang: Why didn't I think of that. Last weekend I also installed a sound system, Pioneer HU, 2x 6x9's in the back and 2x 4" in the front. The 4" aren't very good but I didn't think (and didn't check) that a 6" would fit in the front door panel. Thought the glass would be an obstruction once wound down. So just fitted the 4" in the official positions up front.
Hmph! Too late now.