Fiat Make a DSG 'Box

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just found this article on www.worldcarfans.com.
I hope it's true....

Fiat effectively joined an elite group of companies today with the announcement of a dual-clutch system to be launched in 2009. The gearbox, named C635, will feature in several models, including the Grande Punto, Bravo and Alfa Romeo models.

Versions of the C635 will include a 6-speed manual, dual clutch and an automated manual transmission, a form of (prayfully better) Selespeed for Alfa. The manual will be on offer by June 2009, while the AMT should be on sale in 2010.

Of course one other automaker already uses dual-clutch systems. Volkswagen has it in an array of cars, ranging from SEAT to the 407 km/h Bugatti Veyron. In a number of models the system hauls the cars faster than manual gearchanges on takeoff, while retaining the same or even better fuel consumption.

BMW will unveil its own version of dual-clutch after numerous complaints regarding SMG I - III. It will debut with the new M3 4-door sedan.

Fiat’s system will be built in Biella, not far from Turin, where €500 million has been invested in what is planned to be an 800,000 a year production run by 2010. This indicates the level of self-confidence that the Fiat Group has in its abilities to sell more and more cars over the next two to three years, considering in 2007 VW sold just half of that number in DSG ‘boxes.

Volvo is also getting in on the act with what it calls Powershift, which will do duty in C30, V40 and V50 models.
 
i thought i posted a thread about this yesterday, but it seems i didnt, i must be getting confused with alfaowner. :confused:


i've always said every car should have 6 speed. not sure if a dual clutch is needed, but pointless gimmicks do sell cars. fingers crossed the selespeed replacement will actually work this time.
 
almost every day there is another selespeed owner on the alfa forum who swears they will never buy another italian car ever again because their selespeed wont work and the nearest alfa dealer (often 50-100miles away) cant fix it. you see broken selespeed models on ebay going for a couple of hundred pounds.

its hard to put a figure on it, but i'm confident selespeed has resulted in millions of pounds worth of lost sales past, present and future.
 
almost every day there is another selespeed owner on the alfa forum who swears they will never buy another italian car ever again because their selespeed wont work and the nearest alfa dealer (often 50-100miles away) cant fix it. you see broken selespeed models on ebay going for a couple of hundred pounds.

its hard to put a figure on it, but i'm confident selespeed has resulted in millions of pounds worth of lost sales past, present and future.

Mostly people buying cheap knock out second hand models having this problem.
 
not sure if i trust fiat to make it work...time will tell, vw have been known to have problems with the boxes stalling the car e.t.c. IMO fiats should be as simple as possible mechanically so that when the bit the italian didnt fit right when he was going on his lunch falls off you can put it back on or dont require a huge dealer operation to correct it
 
almost every day there is another selespeed owner on the alfa forum who swears they will never buy another italian car ever again because their selespeed wont work and the nearest alfa dealer (often 50-100miles away) cant fix it. you see broken selespeed models on ebay going for a couple of hundred pounds.

I honestly cant understand this,theres a perfectly good course for techs to go on where you strip down all the different types.You do full diagnostic tests & have a excellent description/repair manual....whats the problem? Examiner is excellent when it comes to selespeed diagnosis aswell.

One thing I will say is I reckon 70% of selespeed jobs I do has come from other garages or owner who messed it up.
 
I love Selesepeed.
I have sold Fiat for 6 years and never ever had one fail on me.
I think a lot of the faults are down to the users not un derstanding the box themselves and making a hash of it all.

We have never had a 'box here that we have not been able to rectify. :worship:
 
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