Technical Fiat 500 headlights
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Fiat 500 headlights
I’m pretty sure non reflector to reflector headlights is plug and play as I read it here https://www.abarthforum.co.uk/500-abarth-tuning/facelift-headlight-projector-questions/
2nd post, I can’t see it being an issue if your car is a non abarth but no idea
Hopefully someone will confirm on here
2nd post, I can’t see it being an issue if your car is a non abarth but no idea
Hopefully someone will confirm on here
Don't install facelift project ones they are seen as poor in comparison to standard ones
Thank you this helped a lot already
decappottabile
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I agree they should be plug and play. As long as they are the halogen lights. The Xenon/HID headlights are a different story.
Okay, thank you!
TrevC
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Having had both pre- and post-facelift cars, I can confirm that the later projection type dipped beam lamps are inferior to the earlier reflector type. We improved ours with high brightness bulbs, but I certainly wouldn't recommend changing from the old style units to the new.
Ok, thank YouTube. Luckily I askel and didn't just try for myself
Nuforce
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Hi all,
First post here having secured a lovely 2014 500C colour therapy yesterday for my wife.
I've already ordered the plug and play retrofit taillights from MS-Racing and I need to change the god awful halogen headlights. These are the basic non-projector kind.
If I order a pair of 2016+ facelift projector headlights off eBay are they 100% plug and play??
I would also be happy with pre facelift projector headlights but oddly there don't appear to be any on eBay !?
First post here having secured a lovely 2014 500C colour therapy yesterday for my wife.
I've already ordered the plug and play retrofit taillights from MS-Racing and I need to change the god awful halogen headlights. These are the basic non-projector kind.
If I order a pair of 2016+ facelift projector headlights off eBay are they 100% plug and play??
I would also be happy with pre facelift projector headlights but oddly there don't appear to be any on eBay !?
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decappottabile
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Facelift projector lights are still halogen
.Unless you mean the HID/Xenon projector lights. They are the same for facelift and pre-facelift cars but they are not a plug and play replacement.
They require a balast, have different connectors and require additional hardware that will automatically adjust the beam height.
I had a quick look on eBay and found dozens of Xenon projector headlamps?
Nuforce
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Hiya
Yeah I DON'T mean Xeon, I mean halogen project.
So can I safely order some facelift projector headlights on eBay and fit them with no issues?
Yeah I DON'T mean Xeon, I mean halogen project.
So can I safely order some facelift projector headlights on eBay and fit them with no issues?
decappottabile
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Yes
Don't rush into this, there are those that believe that the newer projector type are actually poorer than the generally considered ok older type, unless they are HID? Aftermarket market ones could be even worse.
TrevC
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As I said in an earlier post, the halogen projection headlamp units fitted to the facelift 500s give a worse dipped beam performance than the earlier design. We currently run a 2014 model with the older lights, and find them OK. I suggest the simplest solution is fitting high brightness bulbs such as Osram Nightbreakers. Don't think about l.e.d. bulbs though as they aren't legal for UK road use.
Nuforce
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I would suspect the pictured car has HID lights given its a twin air sport I think, projectors weren't available pre facelift?
Though I can't see any washers which it should have if hid?
Though I can't see any washers which it should have if hid?
decappottabile
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The pre facelift cars did not come with halogen projector units. Only the HID/Xenon headlamps had projectors.
Bobupndown
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Fit facelift halogen projector lights then fit either an hid bulb kit or led bulbs to them.
No its 'technically' not legal but massive improvement on light output and will pass mot.
No its 'technically' not legal but massive improvement on light output and will pass mot.
No it won't pass a mot, my mazda has a hid conversion you cannot even tell its converted beam pattern is correct but still a mot fail.
My advice, leave well alone stick standard use Phillips Extreme bulbs, check the various connectors for good continuity and quality of earth connection
decappottabile
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I passed the dutch MOT (or APK as we call it) twice with LED's in the projector headlamps. I agree that it's not allowed according to the rule book but as long as the beam pattern is OK, they will allow it. LED's in non-projector headlamps is an automatic fail though.
I tried the Philips bulbs (X-treme Vision Pro150) but they failed after only 5000 KM's. LED's will last a lot longer.
I tried the Philips bulbs (X-treme Vision Pro150) but they failed after only 5000 KM's. LED's will last a lot longer.
