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Slinkylinks

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I'm interested to know weather putting 4-2-1 extractors onto my 1100cc uno would give it much of a boost in power? has anyone else done this? I've asked some other people the question and been told that it'd just be a waste, but if anyone has tryed this, I'm all ears.

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Slinkylinks,

Fitting a 4-2-1 exhaust manifold (tubular exhaust manifold?) on its own won't give much of an increase in power.

When tuning an engine for performance you have to make sure all appropriate parts are upgraded. For instance, you need to make sure the inlet side of the engine (air filter & carburetor) are able to flow more air and fuel. You also need to make sure that the valves in the cylinder head are capable of handling a higher flow rate. Lastly, you need to make sure the rest of the exhaust system is not restrictive in any way.

You MIGHT experience a very slight gain with just the 4-2-1, but unless everything else is upgraded to suit the gains will be hardly noticeable.

If you have a non FIRE 1100 Uno, you could try sourcing a 1300 twin choke carburetor, fitting a performance air filter and maybe degutting the rest of the exhaust to make it more free flowing. To go even further you could get the cylinder head gasflowed and maybe even have larger valves fitted. That lot with a the 4-2-1 exhaust manifold could well release some useable extra horsepower.

However, if you're going to go that far then really you would need to have the car taken to a rolling road facility to have the engine set up correctly with the new performance parts.

There's nothing stop you fitting the 4-2-1 and then upgrading the other parts as and when. The 1300 engine (of which the 1100 non Fire is simply the same engine with a smaller capacity) has been tuned very successfully in the past. There were a few 128's, 128 3P's and X1/9's with the 1300 engine putting out some very respectable power figures. There's no reason why you couldn't tune your 1100 in the same way.

BUT, if you have the 1100 FIRE engine then your options are very limited. Your best bet then would be to source a 1250 Punto engine, though those only ever came in injected form. And I think all the FIRE engined Uno's fitted with carburetors in the UK only ever had a single choke Weber. Unfortunately, the twin choke carburetor from the 1300 will not fit the FIRE inlet manifold.

Hope this helps, and let us know how you get on.
 
GSR MotorSports do a good list of mods for all Fiat engines, they have got a page on tuning the 1100 engine and what mods give best increases in power

http://www.gsrengineering.com/engineering/mainpage.html

http://www.gsrengineering.com/engineering/pages/products_frm.html

 
Cheers for that,

I dont think I'll bother for the now, it'd proberbly be cheaper for me to just wak in the tipo engine (I was just looking for alternatives, money saving ones ;)) yeah, I've got the 1103cc (I think) non-FIRE engine. but it does have a pretty big carb on it (the twin throat webber (might be a 36-38? cant remember)), so I dunno.



Cheers
 
Yup, Mr. Haynes Manual says it is 1116 cc.

Slinkylinks, assuming that the 1.6 Tipo engine is based on the 1116 cc engine then an engine swap would be the way to go for a budget performance increase.

By the time you finish buying loads of performance goodies for your 1.1 engine, you'll probably have spent way more than the cost of a replacement 1.6 engine. And you probably won't even have the same power as the bigger engine.

If I was you I'd look into swapping in the standard 1.6 engine. It won't be much heavier than a 1.1 so will not upset the chassis dynamics. You'll get an instant 25 bhp power increase and a lot more torque without any of the problems that a highly tuned engine can give. Therefore you'll have a VERY healthy performance gain with good reliability and economy from a standard engine.

Of course, if you wanted to tune the 1.6 at a later date then there is nothing to stop you going down that route!

If you do the 1.6 conversion please post your findings on here. I've considered doing this myself and would like to know how easy it is in practice. My only problem is that my Uno has a FIRE engine so it's not a straight swap. Engine mounts, exhaust and wiring have some differences that could make it that much more awkward. But, if you tell me you ended up with a real 'street sleeper' then it could be the inspiration I need :)
 
Chris,

Forgot to say thanks for posting that link to the GSR website. I didn't know there was quite so much tuning stuff for the FIRE engines!

Interesting to note that the 16 valve 1250 engine IS based on the FIRE. That would be quite a hoot to have in a Uno. Or imagine it in a Cinquecento Sporting!

Anyone with a wrecked Punto Sporting willing to sell the engine for peanuts let me know...:D
 
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