what do you think? a new bravo? http://www.carscoops.com/2013/11/new-fiat-ottimo-is-dodge-dart-five-door.html
General Bravo MkIII ???
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General Bravo MkIII ???
I'll be jumping ship if thats the Bravo's replacement!
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Its not a Bravo, it is a hatch version of the Viaggio, for the Chinese market only.
Does beg the question why they didn't use a refreshed Bravo instead?!
Does beg the question why they didn't use a refreshed Bravo instead?!
Looks like a Sh*troen DS4 IMO.
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Car companies do this a lot. I would place a bet that this model will be rebranded, with some subtle Recognisable European fiat styling (steering wheel, gear sticks and grills etc) and sold to us as the Bravo replacement. (I'd think they will move away from the bravo name. Maybe bring back the Stilo name unless that still creates great pain and memories for the directors).
I'm gonna go against the flow here and say I think it's nice lmao.
I'm gonna go against the flow here and say I think it's nice lmao.
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sure.. but if you consider development costs, it is possible to find a road to europe for that design with (maybe) a more stylish interior...
MEP what's your actual beef with this model? No disrespect, genuinely curious 
I was hoping to hate it but if I'm honest I actually really like it. The interior leaves a little to be desired but the outside looks great IMO.
Yes it does look a bit like a DS4 but *shock horror* I do like the look of the DS4 (although I wish the ds4 was an updated version of the c4 coupe, I know many won't agree but that car is gorgeous)
I was hoping to hate it but if I'm honest I actually really like it. The interior leaves a little to be desired but the outside looks great IMO.
Yes it does look a bit like a DS4 but *shock horror* I do like the look of the DS4 (although I wish the ds4 was an updated version of the c4 coupe, I know many won't agree but that car is gorgeous)
MEP what's your actual beef with this model? No disrespect, genuinely curious
I was hoping to hate it but if I'm honest I actually really like it. The interior leaves a little to be desired but the outside looks great IMO.
Yes it does look a bit like a DS4 but *shock horror* I do like the look of the DS4 (although I wish the ds4 was an updated version of the c4 coupe, I know many won't agree but that car is gorgeous)
Interior needs to be ripped out and binned, completely, exterior isn't to bad, growing now I've had a 2nd look. Could do with some tweaks, loose the chrome at the rear for example.
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The basic outline of the car seems OK, however the interior looks to be a little naff. A few exterior bits will also need to be refined for Europe - some of the chrome needs deleting. Barring that, I think it could make a credible replacement for the now ageing Bravo.
Yep that looks good, hints of current model and Guillietta in there. If they make it in Italy I'm interested, let's hope they do a 1750 Tbi engined hot model
Looks very frumpy and ordinary on the outside, interior appears cheap but given different more European colours and so on might look a lot better basically sufficiently bland to do very well in boring old UK if it wasn't for the fiat badge
Exactly! If you stuck a ford badge on the front of that, the gods would erupt in a chorus of hallelujah played by trumpets, seated in their asses. There would need to be some styling tweaks for this to become a European model but you hit the nail on the head. The family hatchback market (quite wrongly), is judged by the Audis, Fords etc.
I dislike the white interior. It, for some reason, is what everyone believes the future will be. White, clean and simplistic. When in actuality it would be a nightmare like this. Tone it down and bring in more blacks, greys and silvers for a more professional look and it wouldn't look at all bad. I also think the 500-esque chrome strip through the front fiat badge should be dropped in favour of a bigger meaner looking grill. The back end should also lose the piano black bumper trim and recess in the boot but other than that it's actually a nice car. Like I said I may be a minority but I really like it.
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Outside - generally yes
Inside - apart from the volume and heating panel its a massive no.
Inside - apart from the volume and heating panel its a massive no.
Also the headlight switch needs to go. No joke, that was lifted straight out of my old Corsa B, not good and just makes it look like corner cutting :/
Not a bad looking car I have to say, looks a bit "Korean" which I suppose isn't a bad thing as I'm liking the look of some of the Kia's that are comming our way. It just seems to lack the Italian touch that so many before it have had, but if they did sell it here I think it would deffinatly grow on me.
I am in agreement with others about the interior though - it's horrendous! Not so much the look but the quality? It looks so cheap and plasticky and that steering wheel??? If it were mine I'ld be looking into seeing if a bravo one fits 7 out of 10 needs some work
I am in agreement with others about the interior though - it's horrendous! Not so much the look but the quality? It looks so cheap and plasticky and that steering wheel??? If it were mine I'ld be looking into seeing if a bravo one fits
7 out of 10 needs some workI was starting to think FIAT had forgotten about replacing the current models LOL. Seven years since the bravo was released and all we get is a hatchback version of the dart, which is a giulietta in a dodge body?
Anyway I dont think should worry about the interior. The dart's interior is decent enough and thats the one you should be judging since the china version will definitely be different. As for the rear of the car, its just too boringly german
Anyway I dont think should worry about the interior. The dart's interior is decent enough and thats the one you should be judging since the china version will definitely be different. As for the rear of the car, its just too boringly german
Ah they finally released some pictures of it Looks good, be nice to see something like that in Europe.
Looks good, be nice to see something like that in Europe.
