General Blue & Me proxi alignment needed.

[Rachels500]

Morning all,

Had to replace my daughters blue & me in her 62 plate fiat 500, now need proxi alignment can anyone help or advise, we are based in Maidstone Kent.

Thanks.

 

[Pugglt Auld Jock]

Morning all,

Had to replace my daughters blue & me in her 62 plate fiat 500, now need proxi alignment can anyone help or advise, we are based in Maidstone Kent.

Thanks.

I've never done a proxi alignment so can't help much - looks easy enough to do with MES though. What I'd like to know is how prone to catastrophy is the procedure? I've read that, under certain circumstances it's possible for the ECU to be wiped and if the relearn/recognition of ecus fails during the procedure then you're absolutely stuffed. For this reason it seems it's advisable to always make a backup of the system before starting to do the realignment. If it all goes pear shaped you can then use that to reinstate your starting point. Is this true and if so exactly how is it accomplished?

 

[JD2023]

I've never done a proxi alignment so can't help much - looks easy enough to do with MES though. What I'd like to know is how prone to catastrophy is the procedure? I've read that, under certain circumstances it's possible for the ECU to be wiped and if the relearn/recognition of ecus fails during the procedure then you're absolutely stuffed. For this reason it seems it's advisable to always make a backup of the system before starting to do the realignment. If it all goes pear shaped you can then use that to reinstate your starting point. Is this true and if so exactly how is it accomplished? I think you would be unfortunate for something to go wrong I would prefer a USB cable over a bluetooth one as radio can be subject to interference and you don't want comm's to drop while flashing any device But here is a simple guide that might help along the way should you decide to try or need a proxy alignment at some point I did a proxy alignment on my daughters 500 when I replaced the cluster due to pixelation of the little screen in the center Bought a licence for MES ( €50 ) and bought a USB vlinker FS cable ( €35 ) on Amazon I have a dell Laptop with Windows 11 also I had bought a collection of the different colour OBD cables on alixpress for accessing the different can bus on modules the Fiat knowing that some day they might come in useful Use the Yellow Adapter MES identified the Vlinker USB without issue In MES Pick your make Model and engine Pick Body Pick Can Setup / Proxi Alignment Daughters 500 is a 2015 so I picked 2014+ Click Connect Click on Adjustments Proxi Alignment should be Highlighted While on this screen Now make a back up of the Proxy alignment On your keyboard press Ctrl + Alt +C at same time and a new window will appear Drag your mouse over the numbers and highlight all of them Right click and copy On the PC open Notepad Right click on the notepad document and paste the text Save the notepad doc somewhere in case there are any issues Close off notepad Go back to MES and click on Execute on bottom right Follow prompt's to ensure ignition is on Hopefully completes without error / Issues

 

[Pugglt Auld Jock]

I think you would be unfortunate for something to go wrong I would prefer a USB cable over a bluetooth one as radio can be subject to interference and you don't want comm's to drop while flashing any device But here is a simple guide that might help along the way should you decide to try or need a proxy alignment at some point I did a proxy alignment on my daughters 500 when I replaced the cluster due to pixelation of the little screen in the center Bought a licence for MES ( €50 ) and bought a USB vlinker FS cable ( €35 ) on Amazon I have a dell Laptop with Windows 11 also I had bought a collection of the different colour OBD cables on alixpress for accessing the different can bus on modules the Fiat knowing that some day they might come in useful Use the Yellow Adapter MES identified the Vlinker USB without issue View attachment 477209 In MES Pick your make Model and engine Pick Body Pick Can Setup / Proxi Alignment Daughters 500 is a 2015 so I picked 2014+ Click Connect Click on Adjustments Proxi Alignment should be Highlighted View attachment 477210 While on this screen Now make a back up of the Proxy alignment On your keyboard press Ctrl + Alt +C at same time and a new window will appear View attachment 477217 Drag your mouse over the numbers and highlight all of them Right click and copy On the PC open Notepad Right click on the notepad document and paste the text Save the notepad doc somewhere in case there are any issues Close off notepad Go back to MES and click on Execute on bottom right Follow prompt's to ensure ignition is on Hopefully completes without error / Issues View attachment 477219

Thanks, that's very interesting. So, having made the copy and saved it, how would you then go about reinstalling it if the Alignment failed?

By the way, completely on board re using a wired connection - I have the multiplexed connection - I much prefer the security it affords compared to a radio connection (bluetooth or whatever).

 

[JD2023]

Thanks, that's very interesting. So, having made the copy and saved it, how would you then go about reinstalling it if the Alignment failed?

By the way, completely on board re using a wired connection - I have the multiplexed connection - I much prefer the security it affords compared to a radio connection (bluetooth or whatever).

I would imagine
In proxy alignment hit ctrl + alt + c
That will open the custom proxy window
Click in the box then hit backspace to wipeout / erase the text

Open notepad and copy the text from the doc you made earlier
Paste in to the custom proxy window and hit execute

I just tried it in simulation MES

 

[JD2023]

Thanks, that's very interesting. So, having made the copy and saved it, how would you then go about reinstalling it if the Alignment failed?

By the way, completely on board re using a wired connection - I have the multiplexed connection - I much prefer the security it affords compared to a radio connection (bluetooth or whatever).

There are an awful lot of cheap Chinese buletooth ELM knock off's out there
Whatever about reading data from various ecu's I would not fancy writing data to something over a flaky connection and hope you dont get a phone call on your mobile mid stream

 

[Pugglt Auld Jock]

I would imagine
In proxy alignment hit ctrl + alt + c
That will open the custom proxy window
Click in the box then hit backspace to wipeout / erase the text

Open notepad and copy the text from the doc you made earlier
Paste in to the custom proxy window and hit execute

I just tried it in simulation MES

Thanks. I think I understand what you're saying here - I'm a bit of a dinosaur with computery stuff. Hope I never have to do it!