General Black 2021 Abarth 595 Competizione.

[The Pretender]

Rumor has it that in Q1 2022 the FIAT 500X get a 1.5ltr Turbo Firefly 48v Mild Hybrid engine with 190 hp.

That would be a excellent engine for the Abarth 595.

 

[RichardH13]

Rumor has it that in Q1 2022 the FIAT 500X get a 1.5ltr Turbo Firefly 48v Mild Hybrid engine with 190 hp.

That would be a excellent engine for the Abarth 595.

It would, but I doubt that that would fit in a 595,its hard enough getting the current engine to fit, let alone the hybrid gubbins as well....

I suspect that the 1.3 Firefly Hybrid is more likely to be in the Alfa Tonale, although it wouldn't surprise me if there are some 500x mules with it fitted for evaluating the drivetrain

 

[The Pretender]

It would, but I doubt that that would fit in a 595,its hard enough getting the current engine to fit, let alone the hybrid gubbins as well....

I suspect that the 1.3 Firefly Hybrid is more likely to be in the Alfa Tonale, although it wouldn't surprise me if there are some 500x mules with it fitted for evaluating the drivetrain

A Mild Hybrid system is Alternator size, so it could fit.

 

[RichardH13]

Hope so!

 

[The Pretender]

Hope so!

The 1.5ltr will not be bigger in size then the 1.3ltr Firefly engine, it will only be 375cc per cilinder compare to 333cc , and it will get a Twin Scroll Turbo, for Around 180 hp, the rest comes from the 48v Mild Hybrid System.

 

[Olliver]

Ged rid of the AC, then is enough space...

 

[The Pretender]

i believe AC is mandatory in new cars by EU law.

 

[Olliver]

No, I don´t think so.

 

[jrkitching]

i believe AC is mandatory in new cars by EU law.

I think you may be getting this confused with the Directive requiring all newly designed cars which have A/C to use a refrigerant with a GWP (Global Warming Potential) of 150 or lower. There's no requirement to fit A/C; but if they do, it must use the newer type of gas. R134a (used in most cars currently on the road) has a GWP of 1430. This means that any subsequent regassing is gong to cost you quite a bit more, as the new gas is (unsurprisingly) considerably more expensive.

 

[The Pretender]

I don't want a car without AC, TBH.
Most of the year, it's no fun in a car without AC.

 

[suzukialto]

nice

 

[RichardH13]

Looks great in black, saw one at the dealers the other week

 

[The Pretender]

But still 10 year old Technology, not worth to buy with old T-Jet engine.
Need the new 1332cc 4T Firefly Twin Scroll turbo 180 hp version and 6-speed gearbox.