General Any 2.4 mulijet Croma Owners on here.

[Angryeyes]

I have a deal on the table for one these and am just a bit concerned about what the MPG will be in the real world.

i have read several reviews for it and everyone raves over what a great engine it is however some call it economical yet others say it is thirsty ....confused.

Has anyone driven one...how fast are they?

They seem to be the rarest car as i cant find one to test drive anywhere, the one i have a deal on is 120 miles away.

thanks all....

 

[niklasthedolphin]

The 2,4 MultiJet is very powerfull and quiet. A very good combi for long trips.

The consumption is stated in the advertising material fra Fiat.
8 litres pr. kilometer or 35.310117 miles/gallon(UK) in combined driving.
6 litres pr. kilometer or 47.0801561 miles/gallon(UK) when best.
11,5 litres pr. kilometer or 24.5635597 miles/gallon(UK) urban driving.

The figures are to be trusted.

If you find it uneconomical then go fo the 1,9 MultiJet.
Still powerfull but much more economical.

But never buy a car you didn't test drive.

"dolph"

 

[sinilill]

Hi,

I'm newby here and was forced to write here because I got my 2,4 JTDM 2 weeks ago and was sank into the problems. The car itself is fantastic to drive but after two days the engine warning lamp appeared on dashboard. I took the car to the dealer and they didn't understood the problem - they said it is something wrong with the fuel pressure and they changed the filter. The light disappeared and car felt ok again, then after two days the car lost all of its power in the middle of the ride. Somehow I drove it to the service and they said that the problem is somewhere in the inlet where they had to unjoin some device because it is factory fault and factory is working with it. OK car was proper again but now again just after two days of the last repair the light appeared again and the car is underpowered. Now I'm really mad and sick of it:bang: - the dealer said that they are ready to bye the car back if I want!? Thats the last possible solution but maybe someone here in this forum is better informed than the poor dealer. NB! I'm from Estonia and my car is second of that type of Croma in whole country - it means they are unexperienced.
So if there anybody who is able to help then it could be great.
Sorry for my poor English!

 

[T14086]

There are loads of software updates for the croma,make sure these are done.

Did they get any error codes......swirl chamber etc?

 

[niklasthedolphin]

Tell the dealer, that if they are unexperienced with the engine, that they should consult an Alfa Romeo workshop.
The engine is running in many Alfa's and causes no trouble there.
They will know....................

"dolph"

 

[T14086]

had a few probs on the alfas to be honest...which is why I mentioned swirl chamber motor(actuator).

 

[niklasthedolphin]

Unfortunately, I don't know any reliable Fiat/Alfa workshop in Estonia.
I know a good one in Prague though ............. and in Copenhagen.

There's a great deal of problem caused on these machines by using the "wrong" Fiat/Alfa workshop.
Any trainee or "VAG-imported" mechanic can make a mess in such a fine engine.

Only trustworthy mechanics will be allowed acces to mine.

That is my experience after almost 20 years of Fiat/Alfa owner ship.

Today and the last 7 years and 2 cars (Alfa 156 and new Fiat Croma), we have/had no trouble, what so ever.

My best advice: Find another workshop. Guarantee is valid at any Fiat dealer.

"dolph"

 

[sinilill]

Thanks for the advice!

I'll take the car to the local dealer tomorrow and I gave them 1 day to figure out the cause of the problem.
Last time in the service they asked the solution from Finland and they disconnected the swirl from the electric engine. Is it correct??? I forgot to tell that the car is produced in 2006 august and was standing in the shop for a long time (history is controlled).
So, if anyone of you from here have any idea - please let me know!?
Also the sailsman promised to buy the car back if they don't get the answer.
Anyway, I'll cross my fingers tomorrow because the car is fantastic and the brown metallic color.:yum:

Regards!

 

[T14086]

Might take more than one day as will have other work booked in,however if there is a swirl actuator problem make sure the software has been updated & if required renew the actuator(motor).

 

[sinilill]

So, the car is ok and drives perfectly.

All the problem was actually ash filter in the exhaust and all the process took 1,5 hours. they moved really quickly and the master of the service took the car under his care immediately - that was nice.
Anyway there is still a problem with the swirl which is disconnected from the motor. They said that factory is coming up with the solutions, so let's wait and see.

Thank you everyone here who tried to help me in my problem. Really good forum and people.

Regards

 

[sinilill]

Hi,

Here I am with my Croma 2,4 JTD again. I was happy too early. The car's engine started to cut again and the engine warning light appeared again. The local service said that it is related with the DPF but they raised the hands and gave up. I took the car to Tallinn (main dealer) and they started to check it but now after one month of research they still dont know the real reason of the problem. I wish to start some legal actions and before that I need to know some information. Is here anybody who can tell me that there is common and regular problems with these engines? as the dealer says! Now the car has been in the service for more than one month and they have told me that they have ordered several new things for the car (EGR, intake duct and several more), I'm scared that the car is not going to be as good as it have to be! Also they said that they don't know anything about the delivery times of the parts because there is vacations in Italy. That is more than unacceptable!
Another thing is that I said that I'm ready to buy another Croma (2,4) if they are agree to buy that one back but they excused that this one in the stock will have the same problems and there is no reason for that but maybe they don't want to buy this crap back!?
To clear the background they gave me a spare car (Croma 1,9JTD automatic) but that ones equipment is pure and I didn't pay for that car.

So I welcome any information you have because I'm sick of it and I want to get free from that "pain".

Thanks for attention

 

[niklasthedolphin]

Hi,

Here I am with my Croma 2,4 JTD again. I was happy too early. The car's engine started to cut again and the engine warning light appeared again. The local service said that it is related with the DPF but they raised the hands and gave up. I took the car to Tallinn (main dealer) and they started to check it but now after one month of research they still dont know the real reason of the problem. I wish to start some legal actions and before that I need to know some information. Is here anybody who can tell me that there is common and regular problems with these engines? as the dealer says! Now the car has been in the service for more than one month and they have told me that they have ordered several new things for the car (EGR, intake duct and several more), I'm scared that the car is not going to be as good as it have to be! Also they said that they don't know anything about the delivery times of the parts because there is vacations in Italy. That is more than unacceptable!
Another thing is that I said that I'm ready to buy another Croma (2,4) if they are agree to buy that one back but they excused that this one in the stock will have the same problems and there is no reason for that but maybe they don't want to buy this crap back!?
To clear the background they gave me a spare car (Croma 1,9JTD automatic) but that ones equipment is pure and I didn't pay for that car.

So I welcome any information you have because I'm sick of it and I want to get free from that "pain".

Thanks for attention

I don't know about consumer protection in your country, but a thing like that would nothappen here in Denmark.

Take the car to another dealer and if needed to a dealer abroad. They are not like Trabant these engines. It seems like your mechanic is thinking of as if it was Trabant.

These engines have no general problems. They have been used since before any other brand even thought about making diesel engines better, more efficient and lss noisy.

Other car manufacturers, not only a few, are buying their diesel engines at Fiat/Alfa because they are the best. VAG decided to start developping CR diesel engines because these engines, developed by Fiat in the first place, are a lot better than VAG's pump/nozzle diesel engines.

But anyone can ruin an engine like this if the wrong pair of hands get access.
And that is exactly what I think has happened in your case.

You gotta draw a line in the sand and make a decision if you want them to keep on molesting this piece of fine mechanics or if you want to find a skillfull Alfa/Fiat mechanic to make everything right again.

"Dolph"

 

[T14086]

If the 'swirl actuator flaps' are the problem then it will possibly need a new inlet manifold.This is common on alfas.....

This might be of help....

http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/alfa-147-156-and-159/72709-swirl-valve-fault-code-on-159-a.html

 

[kkulczyk]

There are loads of software updates for the croma,make sure these are done.

Did they get any error codes......swirl chamber etc?

Hi

Where can i find that updates ?