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How to check electric folding mirrors
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How to check electric folding mirrors

First off is to remove the triangular plastic trim panel on the inside of the mirror- (you'll need to have the door open to remove it!) just pull gently to unhook the 3 clips. Then pull hard. Then swear. Then lever it off with a screwdriver. Actually it comes off fairly easily.

Next uncouple the electrical connector, it has a latch to press before it'll come apart. Some people blame the connector for problems, so it's worth checking for corrosion and give it a clean and spray anyway.

Now remove the 3 allen bolts holding the mirror on. Leave the top one till last and hold the mirror as you remove the last one. Feed the cable through to the outside and the mirror is free. Now you can do the rest inside in the warm!

The lower mirror glass has to be removed to get access to two torx screws that hold the mirror plastic casing together. It's held on by a sticky pad that will come off if you warm the glass with a hairdryer for a minute, then gently prise it off with a hooked instrument.

The upper (adjusting) mirror glass is held on by a circular plastic clip arrangement, no adhesive. Again a gentle pry off with a hooked instrument and it's free- well almost as it has electrical connectors to heat the glass. Leave these on and move the glass out of the way. Now you can undo another 4 torx screws. There is a catch to free, which is hidden when the mirror is in the normal folded out position, so close the mirror to the folded in postition, and unhook the catch. Now the plastic casing will separate and the internal gubbins is visible- 2 motors and gears to adjust the mirror, 1 motor and "black box" to fold the mirror in and out.

In my case the problem was with the small electrical connectors to the "black box" controller in line with the motor that does the folding in and out. They were corroded, and after a clean, all was well. Some people have bypassed the black box altogether and connected the motor direct.

I suspect the black box is no more than a thermistor - that limits the current drawn by the motor if it is stalled against an obstruction, in the same way as electric windows.

I tested the mirror before reassembly, and it worked, so back it all went.

Result- saving over a hundred quid for a new part, so it's worth a try.

HTH

Neil
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Old 02-10-2008   #1
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Re: How to check electric folding mirrors

Very Useful...Thankyou !!
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Re: How to check electric folding mirrors

Sat 3rd January 09

Good Evening Neil,

When we bought our Multipla in Jult 08, unfortunately, the users manual was not included. So we were 'in the dark' about many things on this vehicle. One of it's idiosyncrasies being the electric mirrors.

Having downloaded your advice with regard to electric mirrors, from Fiat Forum, back in August 08, we have at last got around to doing something about it! We thought it might be a prerequisite to wait for the cold weather, as you recommend taking the mirror inside in the warm.

John, my husband, did all you recommended.....but sadly they stayed the same, working intermittently and out of sinc.
We used to find that on pressing the button one mirror would fold...then if the engine was turned off, wait a few minutes, turn the engine back on again, the passenger mirror would fold.

Then we he did as you also suggest...bypass the little black box...
Hey Presto....they work!

He did all this afternoon, so hopefully now this will have sorted it out...forever!! YEA!!

Can't thank you enough.....

All the best

Kindest regards,

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Re: How to check electric folding mirrors

When we bought Pugly in December the Passenger mirror did not work so I booked it into the Garage and they got it working although it does every so often pull a little stunt when you get back to the car the mirror has moved forward so far that only a passer by could look through it (maybe to do there makeup) at first I thought it was just idiots bending it back but its never broken and always in the same place its bizarre all I do is fold the mirrors in the push them out again and they return to the correct place. I think its Pugly having a laugh with me

Ps the user manual can be found online..
http://www.nick.hostwith.me.uk/test/multipla.pdf
also at the fiat multipla owners club
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Re: How to check electric folding mirrors

I GET THE SAME PROBLEM ON MY Y REG 01 MULTIPLA JTD ELX,THE MIRRORS HAVE MINDS OF THIER OWN ALSO THE SUNROOFS LEAK THRU THE OUTER SEALS INTERMITTENTLY.
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Re: How to check electric folding mirrors

Sorry to comment on old topic, but I have similar issues with my passenger side electric mirror. Is it possible to clean the contacts (or bypass the black box) without removing the smaller mirror? I'm afraid that I might break it easily..
If it's not, how do I put it back after I fix it?
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Re: How to check electric folding mirrors

just to add that if anyone else tries this and brakes the bottom glass, you can get replacements for 8 each on ebay. The reason you need to remove bottom glass is to get access to the 2 torx screws. I got one off easily enough, but off course i was too impatient on the other one, and hadn't heated it up just enough, and cracked it, whilst trying to remove it.
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