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retaining bluetooth functionality after aftermarket stereo install

Hi Guys,

Got a fiat panda 100hp. The original stereo set (with bluetooth feature) was taken out almost immediately in favour of an Alpine head unit with full Ipod Integration.

I have (or will by this weekend) installed a canbus ISO stereo adaptor from Connects2, (Connects 2 CTSFA006 - Fiat Panda 2007> Stalk Steering Wheel Interface Adaptor)

...so now I will have the ability to control the stereo from the steering wheel buttons....

I fully expected that without the original stereo, I wasn't going get bluetooth working. HOWEVER...

I can still pair my nokia with the bluetooth system and I can make calls.
The mic works because the person on the other end can hear my voice.

BUT I CANT hear the other person.

So I think that the green connector (see pic) has 2 pins that give a speaker output. I could wire up a separate speaker to these pins.



1. Which pins should I use?

2. How would I interface the telephone mute pin on that connector?

3. Can I directly connect this mute pin to my Alpine telephone mute input?




Any ideas are greatly appreciated.
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Re: retaining bluetooth functionality after aftermarket stereo install

Thats very interesting indeed. So do you think that this is down to the steering control adaptor?
Your best bet is to Have a look at Alpines AI net cable input.
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Re: retaining bluetooth functionality after aftermarket stereo install

I am sure someone was going to sort this months ago - I need to dig out the thread...
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Thats very interesting indeed. So do you think that this is down to the steering control adaptor?.
Nope... without steering control adaptor or stereo installed...the bluetooth works. I can pair, make calls, the mic picks up, BUT obviously no sound out.
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Re: retaining bluetooth functionality after aftermarket stereo install

anyone? and ideas?
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Re: retaining bluetooth functionality after aftermarket stereo install

right! Bit the bullet and started connecting things up.

Here's what I found so far:

Telephone mute simply works. Just connect the pin (TEL MUTE) on the green connector to the phone mute wire (pink and black on my alpine) coming out of the stereo. The pin will ground when a call in made or received.

Kinda obvious really.

(Tel AF-) and (Tel AF+) are the left and right speaker outputs. Together with (TEL MUTE) they form the 3 connections needed to get sound out.

All I need now is a separate amplified speaker and voila!
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Re: retaining bluetooth functionality after aftermarket stereo install

or use the alpine ai-net to pipe phone audio through the head unit. A cleaner solution. Not sure if this will work. Keep you posted
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Re: retaining bluetooth functionality after aftermarket stereo install

Solved. Alpine AI-net connection worked.

This link,
http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/inpu...us-needed.html

gives more info. You should have an Alpine with "audio mute off" function. When this get's turned off... the AI-net analogue input accepts sound from the Fiat Bluetooth unit.
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Re: retaining bluetooth functionality after aftermarket stereo install

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Re: retaining bluetooth functionality after aftermarket stereo install

This is a bit of a bump, but Im struggling with this.

I have the alpine IDA303, would it be possible to splice the wires for the front speaks where they join to the ISO connectors and connect the Tel AF- and Tel AF+ wires into them?

Where would the AI net connector plug into if i went down that route?
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Re: retaining bluetooth functionality after aftermarket stereo install

Does anyone know where the factory mic is situated? I installed a bluetooth radio but if I could use the microphone thats already in the car with it instead of installing another one the install would be a lot more stealth.
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Re: retaining bluetooth functionality after aftermarket stereo install

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Does anyone know where the factory mic is situated? I installed a bluetooth radio but if I could use the microphone thats already in the car with it instead of installing another one the install would be a lot more stealth.
That would be nice to know! Currently I'm swapping the original Blaupunkt radio for a Pioneer unit with Bluetooth.

Does someone know this? I couldn’t find the mic wire on the original Blaupunkt wire harness.
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Re: retaining bluetooth functionality after aftermarket stereo install

The mic is in the roof lining near the rear view mirror. Its a small plastic square about 1x1inch and has a grill on it
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