Right, has anyone ever fitted on, be it Grande punto/Punto evo Corsa D. If so, how'd you get the bushes fitted on the back of the chassis as I'm not keen on drilling my car.

I think you can buy one that means you take the shocker bolt out then put the arb in place and put the bolt back in. No need for drilling. Where is it your getting it from ?
Try potn.com

callumt said:

I think you can buy one that means you take the shocker bolt out then put the arb in place and put the bolt back in. No need for drilling. Where is it your getting it from ?
Try potn.com

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you still need a solid chassis mounting point somewhere, usually bolted to the subframe somehow, my cinq has a custom rear arb mounted via the rear cross beam then indirecty bolted down onto the shock points iirc

Will need to look to see if I could somehow manufacture something up that would work from the rear axle mounts. Can't be that hard to make it up.

if you want, i can get pics of how the cinqs rear arb is fitted, might give you some ideas? there's a cuple of pics on here of it, i'll have a look on my photobucket and see if they are even on there....

the bm's rear arb is a weird setup, i haven't really looked into what it bolts onto centrally, although i'm guessing it's the rear diff subframe, but it just seems wierd how low and close to the wishbones it is, it is almost mounted directly onto the wishbones and then mounted a second time via the smallest droplinks i have ever seen in my life :laugh:

Somehow I don't think that my punto is going to have the same rear cross member as your cinq.

I'll see my boss as to what he thinks I should use but I've got a feeling that carbon spring steel would need to be used.

i do see your point although you can buy a rarb that you just put onto the shocker bolts and it needs no other mounting point. it actually drops down from the shocker and runs across ( like another thin axle so to speak ) the back of the car.

Thats a brace, not a RARB. A rear ANTI ROLL BAR has to have a chassis mounting point as its to prevent chassis ROLL.

scoop_987 said:

Somehow I don't think that my punto is going to have the same rear cross member as your cinq.

I'll see my boss as to what he thinks I should use but I've got a feeling that carbon spring steel would need to be used.

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yup, but the wishbones need to be connected to something, same idea regardless of what the arb is mounted to, there has to be some kind of cross member in there, where the wishbones join to the chassis is the most logical place to bolt it all up around

this is what i mean. this ANTI ROLL BAR doesnt actually bolt onto the chassis. it only bolts onto the 2 shockers and its held onto the rear beam as you can see by a big jubilee clip and 2 bushes. a brace goes inside the car not underneath.
i made it out like i meant it just went from shocker to shocker with nothing in between so thats my bad ! i actually meant this

anyway i hope this pic helps because this is the set-up that it will most likely be if you buy one

callumt said:

this is what i mean. this ANTI ROLL BAR doesnt actually bolt onto the chassis. it only bolts onto the 2 shockers and its held onto the rear beam as you can see by a big jubilee clip and 2 bushes. a brace goes inside the car not underneath.
i made it out like i meant it just went from shocker to shocker with nothing in between so thats my bad ! i actually meant this

anyway i hope this pic helps because this is the set-up that it will most likely be if you buy one

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that is pretty much the exact same as the cinq setup, the bar is just mounted to the cross member slightly lower

I would have though that if you make your car stiffer at the rear, it would induce understeer at the front?

gengis said:

I would have though that if you make your car stiffer at the rear, it would induce understeer at the front?

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it makes the back a little looser which helps give the front more bite

my cinq is slightly oversteery on the limit for example, but i like that

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I would have though that if you make your car stiffer at the rear, it would induce understeer at the front?

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It makes the rear stiffer to prevent body roll which in turn helps keep the car balanced through a corner, meaning more speed before understeer will occur. An adjustable RARB means you can adjust it to make roll more or less.