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'What happened to them?'

Well, after about £3k spent on the Mk1, by which point it really was a very well sorted example; new rear subframe, new steering rack, back-calipers both replaced (twice) and all manner of other servicing-

It seemed like a good idea to trade it in for an ex-demonstrator Seicento Sporting with Abarth bodykit. (I think I got £500 for it, or something). That was 1999. It went 'off to auctions, in Glasgow'. Somebody got a bargain.

The Mk2 went eventually into a trade in for a Marea 155 20v- an astonishing piece of gear, and one of the best cars I've ever had. That was probably about 2000 / 2001.

It started my love-affair with the 5-cylinder engine, and I've had about five cars with that engine since. The Marea was like a rocketship after the Mk2, which although more refined as a car, than the Mk1, lacked the charisma and purity or shape, I thought.
I owned both the Marea and a Coupe turbo at the time (the Seicento got traded in for the Coupé)- but the non-turbo Marea was the better car.

The Mk2 was bought by someone local from the dealership I traded it in to for the Marea. It might even have been someone who worked there, as I found it unlikely that they would resell it as a going concern, in 2001.
I used to see it parked at the bottom of blocks of flats nearby. They had it for years actually.

And then one day, it wasn't there anymore.
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Its a pity they are not around any more I would love. Facelifted one
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I think I would go for the Mk1 if I could find one, myself.

A red CHT came up in Ireland about five years ago. It was in a barn and I was in touch with the lady who had it and she sent me pictures of it.
But ultimately- I didn't go for it.

(already having three cars at the time)

Can you get a picture of the one you are aware of locally, Icom..?
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Quote Originally Posted by dante giacosa View Post
I think I would go for the Mk1 if I could find one, myself.
I always preferred the Mk1 with its rectangular headlights and flat front.

Had a Turbo i.e. for 18 years. Paintwork was bright red until 2006 when I drove it to Corfu for 6 months. When I got back, it was pink where it had been parked out in the sun.
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oh man-

that's a peach; lucky you

Quite good instrumentation, eh? -Oil pressure & temperature.

I LOVE the back-end of a Croma; so much better than a SAAB, 164 or Lancia Thema, I think...

That looks really well looked after mechanically- I see the new fuel-pressure regulator and air-flow meter; I didn't realise the Mk1 had ABS!

(although Icom said as much before)
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have you the details of the red one the lady had?
I don't have a picture of the one I herd about
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I always preferred the Mk1 with its rectangular headlights and flat front.

Had a Turbo i.e. for 18 years. Paintwork was bright red until 2006 when I drove it to Corfu for 6 months. When I got back, it was pink where it had been parked out in the sun.
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Have you still got the Turbo Croma?
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Have you still got the Turbo Croma?
No.... It had already been hit up the rear by an Isuzu Trooper with bull bars while I was stopped at traffic lights, then in 2008 the rear arches went, so I sold it then.
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Quote Originally Posted by dante giacosa View Post
I think I would go for the Mk1 if I could find one, myself.

A red CHT came up in Ireland about five years ago. It was in a barn and I was in touch with the lady who had it and she sent me pictures of it.
But ultimately- I didn't go for it.

(already having three cars at the time)

Can you get a picture of the one you are aware of locally, Icom..?
Have you the details of the barn find one in Ireland?
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Hey Davren-

You know what's really interesting about the instrumentation on your Mk1, there?

It's exactly the same choice of gauges & orientation as a Coupe-turbo, which came out years later.
(Except of course; not standard Coupe-turbo came with a vacuum-gauge)
There was a shaped dashboard piece of metal over them and the dial-fronts were different of course; but the layou was the same- oil on the left and coolant / fuel on the right.

No Icom- there's not a chance I've still got the contact details for the lady who had the CHT.
If you had legacy issues of Auto Italia magazine, from about 2012 to 2014, you might find the ad in the classified section.
I 'might' still have the pictures she sent me of it on an external-drive; I'll check tomorrow.
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You know what's really interesting about the instrumentation on your Mk1, there?

It's exactly the same choice of gauges & orientation as a Coupe-turbo, which came out years later.
The car came with a separate 8 page booklet just to describe the instrument panel.

The automatic heater had a self diagnostic system. Hold the "Automatic" button in, then turn on the ignition and you could step through various functions such as flap positions, temperatures and sensors etc.

I've still got the original 14 page advertising booklet, owner's handbook, instrument panel booklet, Fiat workshop manual and a slightly faded parts microfische slide.
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That's amazing!

I love those diagrams - they're like cartoon-photos, aren't they?

I had something like that for the Mk1, but the i.e. only had manual cabin-ventilation.
The Mk2 had the auto-panel you have there.

I've still got one actually- I took it from a Thema in a scrapyard at the time as I thought it would be handy if the panel in the Mk2 ever went over.
It didn't.

Still got my workshop manual too!
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Quote Originally Posted by dante giacosa View Post
Hey Davren-

You know what's really interesting about the instrumentation on your Mk1, there?

It's exactly the same choice of gauges & orientation as a Coupe-turbo, which came out years later.
(Except of course; not standard Coupe-turbo came with a vacuum-gauge)
There was a shaped dashboard piece of metal over them and the dial-fronts were different of course; but the layou was the same- oil on the left and coolant / fuel on the right.

No Icom- there's not a chance I've still got the contact details for the lady who had the CHT.
If you had legacy issues of Auto Italia magazine, from about 2012 to 2014, you might find the ad in the classified section.
I 'might' still have the pictures she sent me of it on an external-drive; I'll check tomorrow.
Hi I don't have that I wonder is it still with her if you have the pics it might help
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sorry- forgot my external drive today; so It'll be tomorrow before I dig out my 'croma-corner' folder.

I don't think there's a chance the car still exists in Ireland, Icom.

At the time of correspondence; the lady had had the vehicle stored in a barn for a period of time, and was attempting to sell it as a last resort. It was hardly a 'sought after' model at the time, and I got the impression it was a quick sale, or scrap.

The registration would of course confirm or deny that from DVLA databases.
We'll find out tomorrow.
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sorry- forgot my external drive today; so It'll be tomorrow before I dig out my 'croma-corner' folder.

I don't think there's a chance the car still exists in Ireland, Icom.

At the time of correspondence; the lady had had the vehicle stored in a barn for a period of time, and was attempting to sell it as a last resort. It was hardly a 'sought after' model at the time, and I got the impression it was a quick sale, or scrap.

The registration would of course confirm or deny that from DVLA databases.
We'll find out tomorrow.
if its an Irish car the DVLA would not have any details on it
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