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Old 15-01-2013   #1
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Fiat Croma Keyfob, replacement Housing

Good Morning Croma afficionados;
I have recently joined the massed ranks of Croma Owners (just bought a 55 plate Eleganza 16V Multijet for the missus ) and this forum has been very useful to help with a few of the normal maintenance jobs so far.
Anyhoo, she who must be obeyed, is dissing the rubber buttons on the OEM Keyfobs, they have lost their moulded logos and in general just feel Kack/Naff.
T'internet has not shown any OEM replacement rubber buttons being available, the only options seems a complete re-casing of the Electronics into a new Plastic housing with Plastic buttons instead. (Ebay sites in Europe list these)

Has anyone on the Forum got experience of these replacement cases?
Quality Levels?, fitment Issues etc?

As time progresses I will add a few "How To's" as I get stuck into it...

PS: I've got a noticeable high Freq suspension Squeak from NSR corner...which bush/link/joint is normally most suspect?

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Re: Fiat Croma Keyfob, replacement Housing

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I have bought a replacement casing from Italy but the part that inserts into the ignition aperture requires reducing by approx 1mm to fit. The transferral of the innards is straight forward enough. I haven't got around to trimming mine yet so can't comment on that. The casing I bought is the same as the original with moulded buttons.
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Re: Fiat Croma Keyfob, replacement Housing

Hi Halilson,

So the replacement plastic case you got had rubber buttons?
Do you have a link to where you got it from please ?

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Re: Fiat Croma Keyfob, replacement Housing

Quote: PS: I've got a noticeable high Freq suspension Squeak from NSR corner...which bush/link/joint is normally most suspect.

Hi Corripeter,

The rear upper radius arms (Banana arms) are a weak point on these cars with the outer rose bush wearing out, you wouldn't want to buy the OE Fiat parts though unless you have very deep pockets, I bought some cheap ones from EBay but they only lasted 12 months, I bought some more from an online Vauxhall parts dealer for a reasonable 70 for the pair, these are Febi Bilstien brand so are a good make, I am not saying this is your squeak though, these bushes tend to knock on uneven surfaces.
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Re: Fiat Croma Keyfob, replacement Housing

I got the key from eBay in Italy. Item no 300727923954 looks the same case, except mine came with a blank metal insert too. But you can just put your old metal key in.
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Re: Fiat Croma Keyfob, replacement Housing

Not that I have purchased, but also a key fob at another italian ebayer:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/cover-key-...item35bd4bbd4c

You'll need to translate the listing info, but they make reference to there being 2 sizes as per Halilsons experience.
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Re: Fiat Croma Keyfob, replacement Housing

I always thought it was a SAAB key, and they're a similar idea but different shape and have four buttons.

They're definitely different to any other Fiat. Is the Croma key really unique, or is there any other with the same shape? I know it's not a Vectra key, but just wondering if they used the same key on any other car of the same era.

A SAAB one's about 7 including delivery and a new Duracell battery.
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Re: Fiat Croma Keyfob, replacement Housing

Update from OP.

I got a replacement plastic case from eBay Italy...no issues, quick delivery. The listing does warn about the casing "nose" section being around 1mm larger than our earlier Croma ones.
So I guess the later facelifted Cromas in Europe got a slightly larger key.
I opened up the spare Original Fob, and transferred the PCB, Battery Holder and Mechanical Key sections in to the new housiing halves, without any issues.
Examining the old casings you can see that the moulded rubber detail which is meant to act on the tactile switch on the PCB had collapsed on 2 out of 3 buttons, hence giving rise to the very imprecise feel when you push the old Fob buttons. The New casings have better quality rubber/plastic features so should last longer, and certainly feel a lot more positive when pressed.
The nose section which engages in the lock retainer/collar needs a fair degree of linishing to get it down to the right dimensions to fit the car.
Just take your time, and try to take it off both sides evenly.
I used a vernier caliper to compare dimensions from old to new, you will need to linish over the full tapered length otherwise it still wont fit the car lock.
All in all a worthwhile improvement, she is happier now.....now onto fixing the weeping Fuel filer housing.....it's ruining my drive....

Cheers, Peter
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Re: Fiat Croma Keyfob, replacement Housing

I bought a replacement fob from www.automobilelocksmith co.uk.The old fob is sealed,is it easy to open to remove the electronics inside?
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Just to let you know key fob opened and the electronics in new fob are working fine.It took a while to file the end of the fob down to fit in the ignition slot in the car,but beats paying 250 for a Fiat replacement.
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Re: Fiat Croma Keyfob, replacement Housing

Quote Originally Posted by Doofer View Post
I always thought it was a SAAB key, and they're a similar idea but different shape and have four buttons.

They're definitely different to any other Fiat. Is the Croma key really unique, or is there any other with the same shape? I know it's not a Vectra key, but just wondering if they used the same key on any other car of the same era.

A SAAB one's about 7 including delivery and a new Duracell battery.
I thought it was a Saab 9-5 key.
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Re: Fiat Croma Keyfob, replacement Housing

Quote Originally Posted by Gordon28 View Post
Just to let you know key fob opened and the electronics in new fob are working fine.It took a while to file the end of the fob down to fit in the ignition slot in the car,but beats paying 250 for a Fiat replacement.
As a matter of interest did you look a enlarging the key entry plate on the center console?

I often toy with putting my finger in the key hole to be greeted by the dash message .....

Beyond the front/entry plate there is a lot of room/slack. So I'm thinking that a slight widening in the front entry plate would allow other very similar key bodies to be easily accomodated.
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No, I was concened about doing damage to anything inside the slot.
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Re: Fiat Croma Keyfob, replacement Housing

Hi to Croma owners, i have had my Croma since March, had/ have a couple of niggles including the re-circulation flap now sticking, well i think so as its clicking when trying to power to the correct position. I have one key that is worn, how easy is it to transfer the electronics to a new housing, i have taken out the battery to have a look but how do you remove the other bits. I have seen as mentioned replacement housings on ebay europe and could do with buying one.
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Re: Fiat Croma Keyfob, replacement Housing

I've just ordered two for 10.56 each including delivery from superpowersale999 in Hong Kong!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Replacemen...item4d05421ea7

I'm thinking that the ones others have bought from Italy are in fact from Hong Kong. Or I might be really lucky and find that this one fits already, so doesn't need filing down. I doubt it, I bet it's the same one.

We'll see what turns up in about 3-4 weeks. I'm not in a hurry so not a problem. Will report back when I get them.
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