Register Login
Mr FIAT - Your #1 source for vintage car parts
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 23-08-2010   #16
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Eire
Posts: 96
Thanks: 3
Trader Rating: 0
Ireland 
Re: What's broken on yours then?

Hi all,
06 8V Dynamic,
Under warranty the following;
Both front struts at 18 months,
Alternator at same time,
Passenger door side mirror glass (not demisting),
Driver's door external handle (floppy),
EGR valve at 24 months (acting up again!)
At 40 months new steering rack fitted.

Front suspension is starting to knock again (60,000 miles). what aftermarket shocks/struts have members fitted an do they last longer/improve ride?

We are a dedicated bunch!

CJLAR
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

cjlar is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 24-08-2010   #17
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Burbage, Leicestershire
Posts: 299
Thanks: 13
Trader Rating: 0
Matt Boulton has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: What's broken on yours then?

hi i have a 08 1.2 Grande
so far after 25000 miles i have had:
1x ecu
1x airbox (split down middle seam)
1x set of headlights

new steering rack as apparently this was a recall

the whole front suspension collapsed including snapping both wishbones in the process due to all the f**king speedbumps near me or so thats what fiat blamed it on

i keep getting a message saying that the engine temp is too high and that i have to turn off engine then restart car (9 times out of 10 though this is before i have drove any where when engine has been left off all night )
exhaust came loose on M69 and was dragging on floor, by the time i stopped it had basicallty fell off so i just took off what i could and took it to dealership with only my manifold attached sounded like a right chav ... bad times
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides


Last edited by Matt Boulton; 24-08-2010 at 01:19.
Matt Boulton is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 24-08-2010   #18
The orginal 'Old Grumpy'
 
Radlet6's Avatar
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: North East
Posts: 782
Thanks: 23
Trader Rating: 0
Radlet6 has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: What's broken on yours then?

Quote Originally Posted by Doofer View Post
Vauxhall are now offering a Lifetime warranty! Up to 100,000 miles, no limit on age. It has some smallprint though - only major items are covered, you must have it inspected every year (for free), and they have the right to write it off and cancel the warranty if repair costs exceed the vehicle's value (not hard for a Vauxhall!).

The Kia one isn't transferable to a second owner, unless it's low mileage from a Kia dealer.

You seem remarkably forgiving of a car that blew its head gasket! I'd much rather replace EGR vales etc.
Not brilliant!!!!? Doofer, in 33 years and nigh on 750,000 miles of motoring this is the most unreliable car I have driven and certainly the one that has caused me the most stress, and I have had some oddball motors in my time (Pontiac Firebird, Capri RS 2600, Jag XJ6 V12). Maybe I have been lucky.

Re the Vauxhall, well that's it then we won't see any Vauxhalls over six years old on the road then.

I didn't know about the KIA one - that is a bit of a fix then. However, there are people who will still qualify. I had my Rover for nearly five years. I have looked at the Toyota one, that is transferable.

However, it will only be a matter of time before longer warranties become the norm. A standard warranty in the States is now SEVEN years. So if BMW, Volvo etc etc can offer them there why not here? Because the American legislature supports the consumer instead of the producers.

Have you ever tried to sue someone under the Sale of Goods Act? Let me tell you it will cost you at least 3,000 just to go to court and even if you win you are not guaranteed to get 100% of the purchase price back or your costs.

Re the Rover. I knew when I bought it that this was the Achilles heel of the car. Like I said I should have ought the V6; and I wasn't all that forgiving - I chopped it in for the Croma.
__________________

AS part of the Government's new austerity measures, the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off indefinitely.
Radlet6 is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 24-08-2010   #19
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: County Durham
Posts: 13
Thanks: 0
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Question Re: What's broken on yours then?

Hi folks - my first post on here... after over 30 years of mainly owning Italian cars my best ever for reliability, performance & economy was a new Stilo 1.9JTD 3dr. After 4 trouble free years I traded up to an Alfa 159 JTDM Lusso 1.9. That then became my best ever car for the same reasons plus fantastic looks. Sadly after 18 months I suffered my own 'credit crunch' and the Alfa had to go. For the last 3 years I have made do with a succession of cheap cars. 3 weeks ago I bought a relatively cheap Croma 1.9 8v thinking that I had almost worked up to a quality performance car again (a close relation to the Alfa 159 I hoped) for not very much money but now I'm not so sure.
Day 2 headlamp bulb blown
Day 3 alarm failure warning
Day 4 alternator failed
Day 5 Glow plugs warning
Day 12 develops oil leak while towing caravan - front of 'van covered in film of oil

From reading this and related threads maybe there is more/worse to come? Oh dear.
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

Nickb500 is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 24-08-2010   #20
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 1,620
Thanks: 57
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: What's broken on yours then?

Quote Originally Posted by Nickb500 View Post
Day 2 headlamp bulb blown
Day 3 alarm failure warning
Day 4 alternator failed
Day 5 Glow plugs warning
Day 12 develops oil leak while towing caravan - front of 'van covered in film of oil

From reading this and related threads maybe there is more/worse to come? Oh dear.
Welcome to the wonderful world of Croma ownership! Just a thought - what sort of quantity of oil are we talking about? I'm just wondering if it happened to do a DPF regeneration while you were towing, in which case what comes out may be a bit stickier than normal. Actually, does the 8v have a DPF?

An Alfa could have exactly the same engine issues - it's the same engine. Ditto for the Vectra, Saab 9-3, lots of other Fiats. I don't think they press the "don't work properly" button when they fit one in a Croma. Others may disagree.

I had a wall of stuff to do when I got mine. The previous owner seemed to be of the "put fuel in and don't worry unless it stops" mindset. It's been pretty reliable since though.
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

Doofer is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 24-08-2010   #21
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 662
Thanks: 27
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: What's broken on yours then?

Hi Doofer
I know from personal and expensive experience that the 8v 1.9 has a DPF.

What I can also say is that changing the EGR cured the DPF regen problem that drove me nuts for months and had the dealer pretty much condemn the car.

I've no idea how much mess it makes when it regens though.
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

BrianMcL is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 24-08-2010   #22
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 662
Thanks: 27
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: What's broken on yours then?

I'd be interested to see what everyone else thinks but given the relatively small number of cars sold and the relatively high number of faults we've all suffered, especially given that they are still relatively new cars, I can't help but think there are some fundamental flaws in the Croma design.

Most of them seem to have suffered at least 1 EGR failure and the number of alternator failures seems incredible EGR's are "new" technology but alternators???

My previous least reliable car was a VX Sintra (their original people carrier based on the Frontera) and if I had known their was as much GM DNA in this one I'd never have gone near it. However, we'd had a W reg Punto for 3 years and never had a problem so I thought Fiats were OK.

Oh well, lesson learned.
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

BrianMcL is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 24-08-2010   #23
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Aberdeenshire
Posts: 547
Thanks: 4
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: What's broken on yours then?

In my 4 months of ownership...one front and one rear spring. Bloke before me had just had the alternator done so that does seem a bit suspect so many are going.

Other than that - been great so far! 112k miles and still going well
__________________
Panda 4x4
Saab 9-5 estate
Mercedes E220 Cabrio
Lancia Thesis
lanciaman is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 24-08-2010   #24
Forum Moderator
 
T14086's Avatar
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Preston
Posts: 29,985
Thanks: 1063
Trader Rating: 0
T14086 has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: What's broken on yours then?

Quote Originally Posted by Matt Boulton View Post
i keep getting a message saying that the engine temp is too high and that i have to turn off engine then restart car (9 times out of 10 though this is before i have drove any where when engine has been left off all night )
do you mean 'excessive radiant temperature'? Happens only when starting the car?

Quote Originally Posted by Nickb500 View Post
I bought a relatively cheap Croma 1.9 8v

Day 2 headlamp bulb blown
Day 3 alarm failure warning
Day 4 alternator failed
Day 5 Glow plugs warning
did you not take it back?

Quote Originally Posted by BrianMcL View Post
I've no idea how much mess it makes when it regens though.
non, most people dont know its happening, sometimes though you can smell a slight burning smell with small puff of smoke out exhaust.
__________________
http://www.chryslerforum.co.uk//
T14086 is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 24-08-2010   #25
The orginal 'Old Grumpy'
 
Radlet6's Avatar
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: North East
Posts: 782
Thanks: 23
Trader Rating: 0
Radlet6 has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: What's broken on yours then?

Quote Originally Posted by Nickb500 View Post
Hi folks - my first post on here... after over 30 years of mainly owning Italian cars my best ever for reliability, performance & economy was a new Stilo 1.9JTD 3dr. After 4 trouble free years I traded up to an Alfa 159 JTDM Lusso 1.9. That then became my best ever car for the same reasons plus fantastic looks. Sadly after 18 months I suffered my own 'credit crunch' and the Alfa had to go. For the last 3 years I have made do with a succession of cheap cars. 3 weeks ago I bought a relatively cheap Croma 1.9 8v thinking that I had almost worked up to a quality performance car again (a close relation to the Alfa 159 I hoped) for not very much money but now I'm not so sure.
Day 2 headlamp bulb blown
Day 3 alarm failure warning
Day 4 alternator failed
Day 5 Glow plugs warning
Day 12 develops oil leak while towing caravan - front of 'van covered in film of oil

From reading this and related threads maybe there is more/worse to come? Oh dear.
Hi Nick

Did you find that in the North East? If so where?

Looking at the catalouge of disasters on this forum, every time I take mine out I am waiting for something else to go wrong. I know that it is essentially a Vectra in different clothing, but in the name of all that is sainted I can't figure out what FIAT have done differently. I know that the Vectra has it problems too, but given the number of them on the road if they broke in the same way the Croma seems to the highways would be littered with them.
__________________

AS part of the Government's new austerity measures, the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off indefinitely.

Last edited by Radlet6; 24-08-2010 at 22:29.
Radlet6 is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 25-08-2010   #26
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: County Durham
Posts: 13
Thanks: 0
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: What's broken on yours then?

Hello all, well about an hour after my first post on here yesterday more trouble, but I now know what caused the oil leak! Driving home I turned onto the slip road from the motorway and lost all traction. I coasted to a stop on the hard shoulder - the engine revved but no movement. Nothing much to see underneath but a lot of oil dripping off the under-tray. The AA responded quite quickly and after removing the tray found that the os driveshaft had come out of the gearbox. 2 of its mounting bolts were lying on the tray, others nowhere to be seen. Noticing the shiny new alternator above he suggested that when it was replaced a couple of weeks ago the shaft may have been removed and the nuts not tightened when it was replaced. As I was almost home, the car was towed to the garage which did the alternator work and I am currently awaiting their verdict (and the car being usable again!).

To answer some of your questions, I bought the car from a garage in Swindon (ex Fiat dealer). It's an 06 plate with 68k miles, 2 owners and almost full set of service stamps. It came with one of those limited 3 month warranties and this will cover some of the alternator replacement work although I have yet to receive the cheque - they would only allow 40 an hour labour and 140 for the alternator whereas the actual bill came to about 315 - including loose driveshaft possibly/allegedly.

More news as and when it arrives! Nick.
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

Nickb500 is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 25-08-2010   #27
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: County Durham
Posts: 13
Thanks: 0
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: What's broken on yours then?

Some good news - the garage couldn't comment on the cause of the loose driveshaft but they refitted it, topped up with oil and cleaned off as much surface oil as they could from the underside - all free of charge.

Fingers crossed now!
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

Nickb500 is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 25-08-2010   #28
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 662
Thanks: 27
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: What's broken on yours then?

Got my new alternator (from alternatormart.co.uk ordered Monday, delivered Tuesday, fitted Wednesday) fitted today at a local garage and all seems well again.

Total cost 129+vat for the part, 4.95 next day delivery and 87.50 inc vat to fit it.

Wonder what'll go wrong next?
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

BrianMcL is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 27-08-2010   #29
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 219
Thanks: 7
Trader Rating: 0
United Kingdom 
Re: What's broken on yours then?

You can add a failed water pump to my previous list further back in this thread. I will explain fully in my 'overheating post' I changed it this afternoon (46k miles) and the cam belt while I was at it. This all points to poor quality parts used by FIAT, cost cutting no doubt....simples!
__________________
1972 Fiat 500L, 1978 131S Mirafiori estate, 2000 Brava 1.6 SX, 2006 Croma 1.9JTD 8v Multijet Dynamic
bobbyblue is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Old 27-08-2010   #30
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Southampton, Hampshire
Posts: 3,909
Thanks: 284
Trader Rating: 0
s130 has donated!
United Kingdom 
Re: What's broken on yours then?

Lets keep these issues rolling in.

"Inherent Fault(s)" is beginning to loom on my radar.

From "The Law Relating to
the Supply of Goods
and Services"

"Buyers are entitled to goods of satisfactory
quality, taking account of any description,
the price and other relevant circumstances.
If an item has a fault that is present at the
time of sale (sometimes referred to in this
guidance as a "latent" or "inherent" fault),
the consumer can complain once it is
discovered."

http://www.bis.gov.uk/files/file25486.pdf

Note there is no specific time limit, only what is just reasonably acceptable.
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides

s130 is offline Reply With Quote Quote 
Reply
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump
Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Car broken into makki123 Security 6 23-02-2010 23:25
Car broken! Help? Please xxo0 pk o0xx Bodyshop 4 26-05-2009 23:54
(T) broken key nmrmak Cinquecento / Seicento 6 04-01-2009 18:08
(G) My New GP has broken . phil j Grande Punto 16 19-03-2008 21:28
Broken ISO Pin liamCardiff I.C.E 6 06-02-2006 10:33