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Old 03-06-2019   #16
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Re: Seicento A/C parts wanted

Actually just last week i got in touch with a Sicilian scrapyard who has a SPI and is willing to send me all the parts i need. However it would be greatly appreciated if you could (if possible) share some photos of how the compressor and alternator are bolted to the engine. Regards, Jeremy
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i dont have pics, but the big plate bolts to the engine and then the compressor goes at the bottom and the alternator at top, with belt from crank to compressor and then another belt from compressor to alternator.

Then theres a bracket shaped like an italic V that bolts to the engine block and one prong has a long bolt that goes through the bracket and right throught ecompressor to the other side to tighten down, then theres a smaller bracket/brace that goes on the belt side of the engine to compressor.

Sounds complicated but really isnt when you have it all in front of you.
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I imagine the mounting plate / brackets / bolts vary from the SPI to the MPI engine. The Sicilian breaker is supposed to be sending me all the parts i need for my SPI engine. Fingers crossed everything fits!
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Re: Seicento A/C parts wanted

no shouldnt matter, the block of a spi 1108 and mpi 1108 should be exactly same, all the differences are in the head. The fire block design has changed very very little over the years, certainly my old panda 750 engine block had all the same mounting points as all the cinqs/seis i've owned which in turn had all the same bolt holes as mk1 punto 55/60/75/85 engines.
you can even drop a modern tjet engine in a cinq/sei and then bolt up all the ancillaries from a cento to it as the AC setup and oil cooling setup etc wont fit in a cento engine bay.
The only difference I have been able to find between blocks is the height (based on capacity, a 1108 is same as a 1242 except the 1242 is few mm taller) and the ribs on the block exterior that add strength have changed which can make a few issues. Example, i swapped a P75 engine into my classic panda, everything but the starter bolted straight on. This was down to the newer starter are ever so slightly more compact and the ribs on the back of the new engine are slightly bigger so it just wouldnt quite sit straight.
Don't worry about it fitting, it will all bolt up. If you want to worry about anything worry that they dont send all the parts, the refrigerant lines for example cannot be bought new, most parts can but theres some like the lines that if you dont get you'll have to source or have made custom.
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