Technical Oil Cooler part codes as requested!

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Technical Oil Cooler part codes as requested!

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Hi to all that have asked about the part codes for the oil-cooler fitted to my Cinq.

As many of you know mine is a hi-boost turbo which had its bonnet stuck up all day at Brooklands although I must confess to hanging around with the Lancia crowd & my mate J-P who had his integrale EVO1 Martini 6 plus his mates Repsol livered Carlos Sainz ex.works rallye car which you would have seen fly off the top of the hill with all 4 wheels locked up if you hung around till the last run at 4pm.

As an aside I have been asked if its worthwhile fitting one to a N/A car and well all I can say is yes, you may not need so many rows on the cooler but you will still benefit from it as the thermostat will not cool the oil until it's hot enough, as an aside a Pug 106 Rallye has one as standard equipment and many tuned Minis have them as well.

As for any turbo cars, its an absolute 100% necessity, and should be part of the Van Aaken or anyone elses conversion!

Anyway back on track the codes are as follows from my invoice;

OC1193 - 8 Oil Cooler 19Row 1/2BSP Male £64.71
OTSP1M Thermostatic sandwich plate 1/2BSP £33.44
626 Extension Screw M20 X 1.5 (make sure you get this as they sent me the wrong one at first and it didn't fit the screw from the oil filter comes off, tho I believe they have updated the system now to acknowledge the Cinq)
BRKT1 pair of cooler brackets (not used) £ 2.94
For anyone who has seen my car the cooler is situated in the far right corner of the car when looking at it, to achieve this I used;

HEFSW3 - 8 1/2BSP FML ST 1/2" Hose swaged 2@ £ 2.33
HEFSW93 - 8 1/2BSP FML 90 1/2" hose swaged 2@ £3.03
S100R6 - 8 Stainless 100R6 hose 1/2" ID 1.73M @ £9.36per/M
hoses @ 80 & 93cm ST/90 = £14.47
Less 10% to all items
UPS standard service £8.95
Total £124.17
VAT £21.73
this lot came to £145.90 which included postage at £10 but I did get a %10 discount as which is shown on my invoice on every item just because the guy on the phone thought it was to dear! so I would phone to order rather than use internet as you may get same service.

http://www.thinkauto.com/ otherwise know as MOCAL.

Aaron.
 
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It wouldn't be a squeeze at all due to you not having a turbo or inter-cooler to route around, in fact you could easily get away with having the longer cooler with less rows and shorter pipes leading to it, it all really depends on where you want to place it.

Aaron.
 
I briefly looked into oil coolers cos i am sick of the fan kicking in so frequently on my car. I only have an NA 1242 and i wasn't sure if an oil cooler was being at bit OTT.
I found some bits and bobs to build one at Rally Design. Not sure if this is any cheaper than the prices listed above.
 
On my old 1242 non turbo one, I had an oil temp gauge and no oil cooler. On a steady motorway run in summer at 80mph it would run at around 90'c on the oil, 85'c on the water.
In winter, the oil temp never really came up over 70'c unless in traffic for a long, long time. However, summer traffic driving easily saw water and oil temps up to 100'c.

Thrashing around Castle Combe on a hot day saw 125'c on the oil though.

If you have a cinqy with an abarth front, it'll run hotter than a standard one, too.
There's plenty space on the passenger side just behind the bumper for an oil cooler if you relocate the horn.
 
AFAIK a lot of bigish motorbikes have an oil cooler and they are N/A, OK they do rev to like 12000RPM or something, but still another useless piece of info that may help people decide! ;)

My integrale which has an oil temp gauge (it has gauges for everything) normally sits at about 60-80degrees on a normal drive dependent on the ambient temperature, and the engine about 60-70, except at castle coombe where I got it up to about 100ish on the oil, 85 for the water. :)

As an aside the integrale also has a cooler for the power steering fluid how crazy is that :confused:

If you are every considering taking it on the track, especially as we approach summer its worth while, as I still think the Cinq's sit a bit too hot normally and this is why so many have head gasket failures, so I think a proper thermostatically controller cooler can only be a good thing, there can be no harm if it only cools when necessary as you do need a certain amount of temperate to make things work correctly, I'm even considering increasing the size of mine to a 25 row cooler but thats a bit further down the line.

There is also not much need to situate the cooler that close to the take off plate (i.e. where the oil filter is now) as when I spoke to Mocal they said the pressure drop is not noticeable, and the pump can move the extra fluid no problem as you can run the coolers on the roof if you wanted WRC style, as he said they do a conversion for Fiat X1/9 & MR2's which as you know are mid mounted, that situates the coolers upfront no problem.

Aaron.

PS my horn sits behind the passenger side head lamp (y)
 
I've just seen Aaron's Lancia on Ebay!! jk!

I've always thought they run too hot and during cold days I run the blowers on full cold and it seems to raise the water temp faster but once your driving it rarely touches past 70 as I have the heaters on full hot, during the summer in slow traffic I run the heaters on hot with the window down and try to stop the fan kicking in as much as possible.

Liam
 
J333EVO said:
Cheers D, now I will have to sell my beloved car, can't have it tagged with a Maestro unless its one of the ultra rare (Tickford developed?) Turbo ones (y)

Aaron.

I don't know how to break this to you Aaron, but it was a 1600 Auto. We used to fit the factory kit to cars that didn't come with it as standard.

Cheers

D
 
just went to start "pricing up" (and probably order lol) a oil cooler setup for the tub to find (or not find as the case may be :p - excuse the pun!) that i couldnt find the sandwich plate on there, and all in all finding the site a bit hard to navigate for the other bits too :eek: got the cooler in my basket though :p

Dont suppose anyone could help me here, am i missing something? :eek: :confused:
 
Finally got it sorted and ordered today (y) is a letter missing in the sandwich plate part number, but really cant remember what letter he said it was, sound guy on the other end of the phone though, and put up with my very lacking knowledge of oil coolers/gubbins and helped me explain what i needed (y) top guys, also got a tempra rad fan switch ordered so i'll be fitting that and seeing if that makes any difference either (or if it works!) Just need to find a R5 GTT Oil Filter now, do they all use the same size fitting or do i need to root around to find one to fit the cinq?

Also i take it i fit the sandwich plate followed by filter rather than fitting the filter to the plate then just whacking it all in?

Cheers,
Alex
 
To fit the sandwich plate you unscrew your oil filter and it bolts on in its place, this why you need a shorter oil filter as the space left after you fit the take off plate is reduced, on a n/s Cinq this would not be a problem but as you will see with the turbo convertion it sits in this area therefore meaning you need the shorter filter. The R5 one is the same thread size as are almost all oil filters as there is generally only 2 diff thread sizes in oil filters. you could just pop own your local car factors/halfords get a Cinq filter and then rumage through the smallest boxes you see until you get one that looks correct. Most filyters have teh thread size stamped on them and ithink its M20 on the Cinq.

HTH Aaron.
 
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