General to export or not to export

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General to export or not to export

bad news.... i really wanna export the cinq (altho the mrs thinks im stupid) as im looking to emigrate to Florida! the US have an environment protection agency (EPA) which strictly checks exhaust emissions and also fuel evapouration emissions... without a US model for comparison could take some work but im looking at ways to do it
 
Exporting a car to the US is a complete nightmare usually, there are a few US specific regulations which cause real problems even for car manufactures (eg the jacked up suspension MG midgets to get the bumper height correct which ruined the handling). Take a look & see if it's possible for a 'cento but I think it'll be way to much work.

People tried importing S1 Lotus Elise's into the US & they've ended up as trailer to the track trackday cars because they couldn't meet various requirements without wrecking the cars.
 
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florida has no MOT if i have been informed correctly i can ship it across in pieces reassemble it over there then register it as a 'kit car' afaik the bumper heights wouldnt matter. iirc they only check emissions and then register it with chid and engine number i could also lean out the fuel mix for when its being checked to bring the figures down altho tbh if it was legal in the uk then almost definately it wouldnt have a problem passing emissions in the US apart from the fuel evap. figures
 
the smallest car that i know of that is over there that is sold over here as well is the mini
 
R5s were sold over there, but as Le Car - one appears in My Name is Earl, and in Wonder Boys and some other films - only with a 1.4 auto but you could export the 1.4t, manual box and other bits... :)

I think Toyota was planning to take the Aygo over there, no idea if they went thought with it though, maybe the current economy and general "greener thinking" will encourage them.

When exporting classic Minis to be restored in the US older ones (from the 70's and earlier iirc) and sent over as they don't need to pass as many emissions and/or safety regulations.
 
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When exporting classic Minis to be restored in the US older ones (from the 70's and earlier iirc) and sent over as they don't need to pass as many emissions and/or safety regulations.

They need to be 25 years old and over for import into the US IIRC.

Obtaining Cento spares would be an absolute nightmare; you'd have to import practically everything, which won't be quick or cheap. The shipping costs alone will be similar to the the value of the car.
 
They need to be 25 years old and over for import into the US IIRC.

Obtaining Cento spares would be an absolute nightmare; you'd have to import practically everything, which won't be quick or cheap. The shipping costs alone will be similar to the the value of the car.

i know i have to do more research yet if its gonna turn out to be £2k or so i will chloroform the mrs so its too late by the time she wakes up, but if its like 5k i think ill be buying sommin over there... i wanna get a cento stateside tho id be ridin dirrty! :D
 
the quesion is... after getting over there, finding one, getting the bits together to make it a sporting (or a 1242) is it gonna be more hassle than just exporting my RHD sporting...

if its too expensive then ill sell her :( then find one over there but for the moment im e mailing an importer who can hopefully give me mor of an idea about the process and whats involved with actually getting it over to florida might get lucky with emissions i might just find that all i have to do is put a charcoal filter in and ship it over but thats wishful thinking i fear
 
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I looked into your vehicle, unfortunately I cannot pull any records of this vehicle having any prior importation docket. While this does not completely ban importation, it will mean that you will be required to go through a process of which you will have to prove your vehicle meets Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS). Usually, a case of eligibility is made on a basis of a similar automobile existing in the Unites States. Since Alfa Romeo did not ship this model to the US that I am aware of, your registered importer (RI) will have to prove that it meets FMVSS. The sad part in this case is that most right hand driver (RHD) vehicles are required to meet certain crash safety ratings. This means that the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration (NHTSA, subsidiary of the DOT) would have to have record of how safe your vehicle is on record. Your RI is allowed to petition for your vehicle to be imported, granted they can prove that with modifications they can bring the vehicle into spec of FMVSS. How hard and costly this will be for your particular model I cannot say.

I myself am also a mechanic, but even I would not be allowed to perform the modifications on the vehicle. All modifications MUST be commissioned by an RI that the NHTSA recognizes in order for the vehicle to be federally legal.

Now, thankfully you spoke to me on this issue. Many others would tell you that you could disassemble your car and bring it in. I am one of this country's leading experts in the importation of the Nissan Skyline, and that method is wildly popular (relatively speaking) for those wishing to bring one in. This is called a "state legal" or "parts car" method. It is the process of assembling the car and using a constructed car title, but the problem is that such a title specifies that the vehicle was never manufactured by a major auto maker (which yours was). In this process, your car is legal at the state level but if the federal government were to learn of your car they could seize it at any time with no reimbursement to you and crush the car. Other problems are as such: beyond being illegally by the DOT (or even if you brought the car into spec with DOT by yourself), your car is still a 1996 model. Any '96 or newer vehicle in the US is required to be equipped with an OBD2 system for emissions reasons, and as we are the only country in the world to use this system is an impossibility that your car is thus equipped. Bringing the car in without an OBD2 system is considered to be dodging EPA regulations and is a felony, on top of the felony you committed if you did not make your vehicle 100% compliant with FMVSS. Then you have the insurance companies. If you were to "parts car" this vehicle and get in an accident with it, the insurance company would review the legality of your vehicle, which they would find to be lacking. They would instantly drop your claim, the person who was making a parallel claim with your insurance company could come after your personal property, and the insurance company would hit you with the felony of insurance fraud (which can include hefty fines and jail time). Sorry to spook you, but that is the reality of the situation.

Now, if you would like to still bring your vehicle into this country, there is only one company capable of handling such a job. This company is JK Technologies based out of Baltimore, MD. They are considered the leading experts in vehicle importation in the United States, they have no equal. I am actually a Baltimore native and have seen their work, anybody trying to 100% legally import a vehicle less than 25 years old goes through them and they are capable of pushing almost any petition through the NHTSA. If anybody can do it, they can. My suggestion would be to call them and discuss this issue with them, they may be able to secure you an OBD2 waiver depending on the exact manufacture date of your car (or it may not be necessary at all) and if any RI can bring it into proper FMVSS specs they can.

so basically if someone can bring into spec it will cost me a ****in fortune
 
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