(G) engine swap to an punto gt engine

boukekoppejan · 21-04-2009

Hello,

About a couple of weeks i change my engine (fiat seicento) to an punto gt engine.

Does somebody tried this before, got any tips/pics.

Thx

Bouke

allanhelen · 21-04-2009

The only tips i will give you are don't do it and try searching

arc · 21-04-2009

yeah it's a lousy idea, have a search for it. It has been done, but it makes the car nose heavey, destroys the handling and costs a lot

boukekoppejan · 21-04-2009

Hello,

i searched a lot on google and fiat forum but i can't find anything about this.

it cost about 2000 euro's so it is not too expansive

thx

arc · 21-04-2009

2000 euro is a lot imo

https://www.fiatforum.com/cinquecent...into-cinq.html

Originally Posted by craigb244

think hyper jack russell... think laminated flooring.... thats your GT engined cinq

if you have 2k spare, then spend it elsewhere - like a turbo, or 16v conversion, or both

boukekoppejan · 21-04-2009

Originally Posted by arc

2000 euro is a lot imo

https://www.fiatforum.com/cinquecent...into-cinq.html

if you have 2k spare, then spend it elsewhere - like a turbo, or 16v conversion, or both

what is a 16v conversion?

bouke

MiG · 21-04-2009

Originally Posted by boukekoppejan

what is a 16v conversion?

bouke

Fiat SuperFire 1.2 16V engine from the Punto IIRC. A lot of people end up sticking the 1.4 16V later engine in eventually though.

the first is about 80bhp, latter about 100bhp.

boukekoppejan · 21-04-2009

but what i do not understand is why a 1.2 16v punto engine does fit but a punto gt engine does not fit. does somebody know?

thx

bouke

allanhelen · 21-04-2009

The 1.2 and 1.4 FIRE engines are an evolution of the engines that were origionally fitted to cento's so will fit with less work

the Punto GT engine is based on a different older design of engine and is much bigger and heavier so requires cutting the car to make it fit and as it is heavier the car will be front heavy and understeer in corners

Pep0 · 21-04-2009

Originally Posted by allanhelen

as it is heavier the car will be (sic even more) front heavy and understeer (sic even more) in corners

You will need to anticipate more or alter more hedges...

Noel

craigb244 · 21-04-2009

Originally Posted by Pep0

You will need to anticipate more or alter more hedges...

Noel

clear peoples hedges more like!

99sei · 21-04-2009

From what i have read of this thread so far it seems like you have already done the conversion/ in the middle of it. What kind of info are you after?

fingers99 · 21-04-2009

I don't see the point in the Punto GT conversion -- if you're going to have to fabricate all the engine mounts there are far better, lighter, more powerful engines out there.............

boukekoppejan · 22-04-2009

Originally Posted by fingers99

I don't see the point in the Punto GT conversion -- if you're going to have to fabricate all the engine mounts there are far better, lighter, more powerful engines out there.............

Do know wich engines? because i only know is the uno turbo and punto engine's

thx

bouke

fingers99 · 22-04-2009

I think a 1.8 K series will fit in there, others have suggested the smaller Honda and Toyota units. All will need either subframing or new engine mounts fabricating, all will need new gearbox linkeages, etc. and their own gearbox, as will the Punto/Uno engines. All will outperform all but the Turbo units...........

But the 1.4 16v from a Stilo (etc) is a much easier prospect.

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allanhelen I Need Beer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Looking at an empty Glass Posts: 2,924 Thanks: 100 Trader Rating: 0	Re: engine swap to an punto gt engine The only tips i will give you are don't do it and try searching __________________ No FIAT's any more and nothing else sensible either
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arc this is where i stand Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 13,581 Thanks: 289 Trader Rating: 0	Re: engine swap to an punto gt engine yeah it's a lousy idea, have a search for it. It has been done, but it makes the car nose heavey, destroys the handling and costs a lot __________________ .:: 1368cc 16v Cinquecento ::.
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arc this is where i stand Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 13,581 Thanks: 289 Trader Rating: 0	Re: engine swap to an punto gt engine 2000 euro is a lot imo https://www.fiatforum.com/cinquecent...into-cinq.html Originally Posted by craigb244 think hyper jack russell... think laminated flooring.... thats your GT engined cinq if you have 2k spare, then spend it elsewhere - like a turbo, or 16v conversion, or both __________________ .:: 1368cc 16v Cinquecento ::.
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MiG Get Your Own Title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 581 Thanks: 6 Trader Rating: 0	Re: engine swap to an punto gt engine Originally Posted by boukekoppejan what is a 16v conversion? bouke Fiat SuperFire 1.2 16V engine from the Punto IIRC. A lot of people end up sticking the 1.4 16V later engine in eventually though. the first is about 80bhp, latter about 100bhp. __________________
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allanhelen I Need Beer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Looking at an empty Glass Posts: 2,924 Thanks: 100 Trader Rating: 0	Re: engine swap to an punto gt engine The 1.2 and 1.4 FIRE engines are an evolution of the engines that were origionally fitted to cento's so will fit with less work the Punto GT engine is based on a different older design of engine and is much bigger and heavier so requires cutting the car to make it fit and as it is heavier the car will be front heavy and understeer in corners __________________ No FIAT's any more and nothing else sensible either Last edited by allanhelen; 21-04-2009 at 20:41.
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Pep0 Get Your Own Title Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: UK Posts: 3,254 Thanks: 120 Trader Rating: 0	Re: engine swap to an punto gt engine Originally Posted by allanhelen as it is heavier the car will be (sic even more) front heavy and understeer (sic even more) in corners You will need to anticipate more or alter more hedges... Noel __________________ standard Sei Sporting except for colour matched ice scraper, screw driver, & steering wheel lock i.e yellow car spare alternator belt, clutch cable & bulb set, 2x overalls
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craigb244 Get Your Own Title Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bridgnorth Posts: 5,256 Thanks: 214 Blog Entries: 3 Trader Rating: 1	Re: engine swap to an punto gt engine Originally Posted by Pep0 You will need to anticipate more or alter more hedges... Noel clear peoples hedges more like! __________________ 1997 - White - Cinquecento - PPC featured High boost 16v Turbo 2010 - White - Punto evo GP
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99sei Get Your Own Title Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Coventry (near Birmingham Posts: 1,135 Thanks: 2 Trader Rating: 1	Re: engine swap to an punto gt engine From what i have read of this thread so far it seems like you have already done the conversion/ in the middle of it. What kind of info are you after? __________________ Originally Posted by 99sei im ginger and special and now im terrorising the roads in my cinq
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fingers99 Get Your Own Title Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Liverpool Posts: 27,676 Thanks: 1226 Blog Entries: 3 Trader Rating: 5	Re: engine swap to an punto gt engine I don't see the point in the Punto GT conversion -- if you're going to have to fabricate all the engine mounts there are far better, lighter, more powerful engines out there............. __________________ M12 fund £20
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fingers99 Get Your Own Title Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Liverpool Posts: 27,676 Thanks: 1226 Blog Entries: 3 Trader Rating: 5	Re: engine swap to an punto gt engine I think a 1.8 K series will fit in there, others have suggested the smaller Honda and Toyota units. All will need either subframing or new engine mounts fabricating, all will need new gearbox linkeages, etc. and their own gearbox, as will the Punto/Uno engines. All will outperform all but the Turbo units........... But the 1.4 16v from a Stilo (etc) is a much easier prospect. __________________ M12 fund £20
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